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Default I can't help but like Pederson

i can see why the players have his back.

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Would like to see Frank call a game though.
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Does anyone buy this non contact stuff. Looked like a direct hit to me.
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Does anyone buy this non contact stuff. Looked like a direct hit to me.
Wentz heard it pop before.
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Does anyone buy this non contact stuff. Looked like a direct hit to me.
I don't. Look at the way Wentz' foot moves when he gets hit. The combination of the two players hitting above and below the knee twisted the joint in a manner which is a classic ACL injury mechanism.

Also, his foot wasn't planted before the hit. I think it is unlikely a non contact ACL injury would happen without the foot being planted.
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Yeah, same. We'll see how he coaches in the playoffs, but he's got the right personality and that's important, especially in times like this (see: Chip Kelly).
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Yeah, same. We'll see how he coaches in the playoffs, but he's got the right personality and that's important, especially in times like this (see: Chip Kelly).
The end of this season will be very revealing. I have to say I am rooting for Gomer in a way that I never rooted for Reid (FF). FF always pissed me off. Gomer hasn't done that.

Having said that both Gomer and FF >> Chip Kelly.
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Hopefully he's got them thinking it's "house money" now - no one expects them to win a playoff game, let alone go far or even (gulp) win the whole damn thing.
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Yeah, same. We'll see how he coaches in the playoffs, but he's got the right personality and that's important, especially in times like this (see: Chip Kelly).
are U making it out to the Dullas game?
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I don't. Look at the way Wentz' foot moves when he gets hit. The combination of the two players hitting above and below the knee twisted the joint in a manner which is a classic ACL injury mechanism.

Also, his foot wasn't planted before the hit. I think it is unlikely a non contact ACL injury would happen without the foot being planted.
Profootballdoc says the ACL happened before he was hit:

"The tear did not happen on the dive for the end zone when Wentz was hit in the air. It likely happened on final step with the left leg at the 3-yard line.

He dove off the power of the right leg and dragged the left leg into the end zone. The left foot dragged as he scuffled along the turf."


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Profootballdoc says the ACL happened before he was hit:

"The tear did not happen on the dive for the end zone when Wentz was hit in the air. It likely happened on final step with the left leg at the 3-yard line.

He dove off the power of the right leg and dragged the left leg into the end zone. The left foot dragged as he scuffled along the turf."


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He's entitled to his opinion. I believe in Occam's Razor. He has no more physical evidence than I do.
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And WTF would you be doing to send a guy with an ACL tear back into the game?

I might buy he had a knee sprain but that hit to the knee finished it off.

Not buying "non contact".
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He's referring to the step he took immediately before he dove ... and I agree with it.

He's the second doctor I read in two different articles who said the same thing.
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He's referring to the step he took immediately before he dove ... and I agree with it.

He's the second doctor I read in two different articles who said the same thing.
I disagree. Look at the knee during the hit. Internal rotation plus valgus. Classic ACL injury mechanism.

When I get back to work tomorrow I'll talk to some docs and ask them what they think.
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Right now, not looking good. Too much crap going on. If anything changes I will let you know. I can always get down there last minute.
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hope to see ya down there before all is said and done. Keep Zubbs posted.
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I disagree. Look at the knee during the hit. Internal rotation plus valgus. Classic ACL injury mechanism.

When I get back to work tomorrow I'll talk to some docs and ask them what they think.
Stick with your gut!
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I believe in Kelly Green's Law and that would get you to the same conclusion.
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Stick with your gut!
Honestly, who cares? For me, the most important fact is Wentz is gone for the year.

Those who like to argue can enjoy arguing about how it happened.

I'm upset about this turn of events.
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