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0 faith in altherr being healthy and/or another shoe to drop.
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0 faith in altherr being healthy and/or another shoe to drop.
I think this means they are acquiring Machado.

I am thinking the package will be Sixto, Crawford, and the O's pick of Altherr or Williams.

That...or they are trading a similar package (no Crawford though) for Grienke.

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This is the Phillies version of Trevor Booker.
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This is the Phillies version of Trevor Booker.
you're clueless.
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This is the Phillies version of Trevor Booker.
Go home and get your fucking shinebox.
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I think this means they are acquiring Machado.

I am thinking the package will be Sixto, Crawford, and the O's pick of Altherr or Williams.
I think the Machado rumors are bluster, although I think the O's management is seriously talking to McFail (c).

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That...or they are trading a similar package (no Crawford though) for Grienke.
I do think a package for a pitcher, possibly grienke, is more likely.
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Wait, this was a good move?
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They might be selling high on Hoskins. Probably another move coming.
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Are you saying they would consider trading Hoskins?
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Wait, this was a good move?
Santana isn't bad, c'mon. Consistent high OBP which this team needs. It's probably too much money, but their payroll is so low it doesn't really matter. They did lose a 2nd round pick.

If this is the last move they make, it doesn't really make sense. Let's see how it shakes out.
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Are you saying they would consider trading Hoskins?
Yes, I do. Hoskins is a butcher in the OF and Santana can't play anywhere but 1B.
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They didn't need to bring him in at all. They were fine where they were at. This team played better the second half of the season with the young guys. They needed to keep it going with bringing up the other pieces. They can make these types of moves next year.


I'm ruling out Greinke since he doesn't have the best history with the guy they just brought back. Maybe they can work it out but I'm betting against it.

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Yes, I do. Hoskins is a butcher in the OF and Santana can't play anywhere but 1B.
I would be shocked if Hoskins was moved. He's practically untouchable at this point. If Hoskins can't play outfield, he goes to first. That makes this move even more questionable.

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I would be shocked if Hoskins was moved. He's practically untouchable at this point.
You wouldn't do it for Machado, though? They have to be considering it.

They could also move Altherr and/or Williams for pitching help (Archer?). There's definitely something else coming.
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No way. You need to keep Hoskins around. He's 24 years old and he's shown the most potential since the last rebuild. They need to 'Trust the Process' here. Be patient.
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No way. You need to keep Hoskins around. He's 24 years old and he's shown the most potential since the last rebuild. They need to 'Trust the Process' here. Be patient.
Machado is 25 and a proven commodity at the hot corner.
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Machado is 25 and a proven commodity at the hot corner.

I would do it in a heartbeat. Remember Dominic Brown? Until a player does it over a couple of seasons itís a crap shoot.
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Machado is 25 and a proven commodity at the hot corner.
They can have both. They don't need to necessarily have one or the other. This is the year to see what you have. They can get the same player next year. They're out there. Hoskins showed us enough to give him another year at the very least.
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