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Unread 12-27-2017, 10:35 AM   #1
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Default Damn! So much angst on this bored.

I notice how the majority of talking douchebags are touting the Viqueens as the team to beat in the NFC.

Really? The team with Case Keenum as their QB? Wow, now there’s a real savior at that position! Big Dick Nick, even with that stinker against the Raiders, is certainly on par with Keenum. Everybody has an off day, but to see it here Foles has morphed in a second Dirty Sanchez!

And the Queens defense.......better than the Iggles. Not at all. Mills makes on (very major) fuck up and the entire defense is indicted as terrible. Hah!

So the Iggles play an ugly game and eke out a win against a team we should have bulldozed and now they and their 13/2 record make them nothing but losers? Shame on every one of you spouting gloom and doom and piling on after one “poor” victory. You’re the actual losers here.

The playoffs are going through Philadelphia baby, so grab yo’ popcorn!

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I agree with this.

Eagles are 13-2 at home under Pederson and 7-0 at home this year.

I tend to think the concept of bulletin board material and us against the world mentality stuff is BS. But if its real, the National Press is giving the #1 seeded Eagles plenty work with.

Foles's performance wasn't going to be linear. He'll be good enough in January.
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Said to DSG the other day were the worst 13-2 team in history,,,"chuckling" of course,,,Two weeks its the defense,,then Foles had his crapper...and trust me, I have been there for many Awful Foles Performances,,,Dullas!!!!?

But that doesn't mean Its the End Game,,,,all we can hope for is that Douggie is Treating this like the Foles Preseason....we will know more 2nd qrt of the Div game....its all conjecture. 5 turnovers in 2 qrts By the defense! I'm going to enjoy My Frozen ass days in Philly coming up..

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Wentz is clearly the biggest reason for that record.

He's not there.

The second biggest reason is the defense.

It's not there ... to the extent that anyone with an un-slanted eye knows that it has lately had more problems than one ass-rape of Mills on a slant and go.

Foles is not as bad as he was the other night, but he's not a franchise quarterback.

The defense beat a shitty team not because it handled them on the line, but because they were sloppier with the ball than the Eagles were ... not something on which to generally bank.

However, you are correct in that the rest of the league has no juggernauts either, and the Eagles have been getting the bounces so far (voodoo for which I put more stock in than many)

But forgive me if I ain't as warm and fuzzy as I'd be with Wentz there to pull some legitimate juggernaut QB play when they really need some.

And they probably will against whoever comes to town after the meaningless (love to say that) Cowboys.
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I notice how the majority of talking douchebags are touting the Viqueens as the team to beat in the NFC.

Really? The team with Case Keenum as their QB? Wow, now there’s a real savior at that position! Big Dick Nick, even with that stinker against the Raiders, is certainly on par with Keenum. Everybody has an off day, but to see it here Foles has morphed in a second Dirty Sanchez!

And the Queens defense.......better than the Iggles. Not at all. Mills makes on (very major) fuck up and the entire defense is indicted as terrible. Hah!

So the Iggles play an ugly game and eke out a win against a team we should have bulldozed and now they and their 13/2 record make them nothing but losers? Shame on every one of you spouting gloom and doom and piling on after one “poor” victory. You’re the actual losers here.

The playoffs are going through Philadelphia baby, so grab yo’ popcorn!

E-A-G-L-E-S...........EAGLES!!!!
For many reasons. But, if this team makes it to the Super Bowl I will be absolutely stunned. If you reseeded the current playoff teams in the NFC I'm not sure where I'd put the Eagles. I'd like to believe they could still beat Charlotte, Seattle and/or Atlanta, but beyond that I'm not so sure.

2018 is gonna tell us a lot too, if Wentz comes back. The schedule is brutal. Gomer's gonna have to do a lot more than be a good clubhouse guy.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...8-schedule.htm
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For many reasons. But, if this team makes it to the Super Bowl I will be absolutely stunned. If you reseeded the current playoff teams in the NFC I'm not sure where I'd put the Eagles. I'd like to believe they could still beat Charlotte, Seattle and/or Atlanta, but beyond that I'm not so sure.

2018 is gonna tell us a lot too, if Wentz comes back. The schedule is brutal. Gomer's gonna have to do a lot more than be a good clubhouse guy.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...8-schedule.htm
Schedule is brutal right now, but who knows how the teams will shape up next year.
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Schedule is brutal right now, but who knows how the teams will shape up next year.
The schedule really isn't particularly brutal.

The Giants, Redskins, Cowboys, Colts, Texans, Bucs, and Titans all suck. That is 62.5% of the schedule.

Also what is with this "IF Wentz comes back" nonsense? Per the experts he will be ready for training camp. There is no way he misses the season, unless he suffers some other injury during rehab or camp.

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Texans with watson will be different, titans aren't good like the majority of the teams you listed there. If Wentz is healthy and improves from even this year (even with the injury he has to get better in some spots) then I would say 10 wins is probable.
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...that the “walking barrel of acid” is posting about angst.
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Texans with watson will be different, titans aren't good like the majority of the teams you listed there. If Wentz is healthy and improves from even this year (even with the injury he has to get better in some spots) then I would say 10 wins is probable.
Yeah, I guess my overriding point is that if Wentz stays healthy the Eagles should have this division locked down for the next decade.
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Default I don’t know how much playoff experience will matter but

Foles isn’t as experienced as Ryan, Newton or Brees of course, but he is more experienced than Keenum and Goff are.

The Boys game in Dallas in ‘13 was a playoff game itself and the D and STs choked the game away against the Saints in the WC game. Add to that DeSean Jackson’s disappearing act until mid 4th quarter and Cooper’s drop when he was wide open and things could have been a lot different. The Birds were up 24-23 when he left the field. Not being said is that he brought them back from 20-7 down in that game.

The last 3 games have had playoff like atmosphere to them. In LA, he brought them back from 4 points down coming in cold from the bench; in NY, only one week working with the ones he brought them back from 13 down; and Monday night twice when they had to have it, he brought them down the field to tie and then to win it.

I think the media and some fans are just concentrating on the last game and not the preceding games before that.
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Default No one here is stating, nor even implying......

that BDN is anywhere as talented as Wentz.

But, we have all seen BDN play at a high level. If he pulls his head out of his ass from Sunday's game, then he is absolutely capable of getting the Iggles to the Super Bowl.

I do not put too much stock in game "intangibles", but I believe there's an amount of truth that teams raise their level of play when opposite the top dog. This is something the Iggles have had to deal with since they passed the mid season mark and, IMHO, they've done damn well.
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Foles isn’t as experienced as Ryan, Newton or Brees of course, but he is more experienced than Keenum and Goff are.

The Boys game in Dallas in ‘13 was a playoff game itself and the D and STs choked the game away against the Saints in the WC game. Add to that DeSean Jackson’s disappearing act until mid 4th quarter and Cooper’s drop when he was wide open and things could have been a lot different. The Birds were up 24-23 when he left the field. Not being said is that he brought them back from 20-7 down in that game.

The last 3 games have had playoff like atmosphere to them. In LA, he brought them back from 4 points down coming in cold from the bench; in NY, only one week working with the ones he brought them back from 13 down; and Monday night twice when they had to have it, he brought them down the field to tie and then to win it.

I think the media and some fans are just concentrating on the last game and not the preceding games before that.
If Fooles takes care of the ball the Birds have a shot in any game. If he starts throwing picks and/or fumbling ... they are done. Stating the obvious here.
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If Fooles takes care of the ball the Birds have a shot in any game. If he starts throwing picks and/or fumbling ... they are done. Stating the obvious here.
for about a half hour looking left, right, left, center, left, right, then throws the ball out of bounds or gets sacked. That's one of my favorite plays.
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for about a half hour looking left, right, left, center, left, right, then throws the ball out of bounds or gets sacked. That's one of my favorite plays.
If there is no one open what do you suggest he does?
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[QUOTE=slag;1896869]Wentz is clearly the biggest reason for that record.

He's not there.

The second biggest reason is the defense.

It's not there ... to the extent that anyone with an un-slanted eye knows that it has lately had more problems than one ass-rape of Mills on a slant and go.

Foles is not as bad as he was the other night, but he's not a franchise quarterback.

The defense beat a shitty team not because it handled them on the line, but because they were sloppier with the ball than the Eagles were ... not something on which to generally bank.

However, you are correct in that the rest of the league has no juggernauts either, and the Eagles have been getting the bounces so far (voodoo for which I put more stock in than many)

But forgive me if I ain't as warm and fuzzy as I'd be with Wentz there to pull some legitimate juggernaut QB play when they really need some.

And they probably will against whoever comes to town after the meaningless (love to say that) Cowboys.[/QU

What really smokes me is how much went our way this season and when Wentz went down it was the Cunningham/Paup thing again.

If things fall short this season it will be a bitch, great opportunity and position to be in. Sick of “good seasons”, ...been there,seen that. Not looking to be entertained.
Don’t care if they go 0-16 or 16-0....just hoist some fucking Lombardi hardware and spare me settling for “participation good job” trophy and have a seat on the couch with the last 57 seasons.

All or nothing.
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Every team in the NFC is flawed on some level and beatable, this includes the Eagles. For that matter its the same on the AFC side. If BDN plays close to his potential I am confident we can get deep into the playoffs, how deep is the question. We are as good as or better than the NFC teams.
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If there is no one open what do you suggest he does?
Here's an interesting article on that. Basically I think the answer is throw the ball.


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"Sometimes you do have to challenge the receiver, challenge the defensive back, make it a contested catch," Doug Pederson acknowledged. "All we all know, Alshon has a tremendous catch radius, and can catch a high ball, or a back shoulder throw this season already. It's just (Jeffery and Foles) working out the details of body language, and understanding route combinations, and how he runs certain routes, and continue to work that way, learn to have that trust, and the ability to make those plays.

"I won't stand here and say that there weren't any opportunities to throw him the ball. There were. As a staff we have to make sure that we're coaching the play right, teaching the play right, teaching the quarterbacks the progression on plays, and we're doing all of that right so that we can make those plays in the future."
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Yup. I posted after week 1that I'd take wins any way I could get them on account of the schedule looking so rough.
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