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    Frontier Airlines now charging for carry-on bags

    AP Photo: David Zalubowski, File
    Frontier Airlines jetliners sit stacked up at gates along the A concourse at Denver International Airport.
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    NEW YORK (AP) — Passengers beware: More airline fees are on their way. Another airline is promising to change the way we fly by offering cheap base fares but then adding on a bevy of additional fees. Passengers flying Frontier Airlines will now have to pay extra to place carry-on bags in the overhead bin or for advance seat assignments.
    The move comes as the Denver-based airline tries to transform itself into a fee-dependent airline, similar to Spirit Airlines or Allegiant Air — the only other U.S. carriers to charge such fees. Frontier already charges $1.99 for a soda or water on its flights, a fee it added on July 1.
    Frontier says that in exchange for these new fees, it is lowering its base fare by an average of 12 percent. The new charges apply to tickets purchased on or after Monday.
    Frontier carries 8.4 million passengers a year, about 1 percent of the overall traffic flown by U.S. airlines.
    There is no indication that larger carriers like American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Southwest Airlines or United Airlines are considering such fees.
    Frontier's fee for using the overhead bin ranges from $20 for frequent fliers who book online to $50 for those who fail to pay before getting to the gate. Most will pay $25 if they check-in online; $35 if they check-in at the airport. Frontier previously only charged a fee for carry-on bags to people who booked the cheapest tickets through third-party sites like Expedia and Orbitz. Monday's change applies to everybody except those booking the most-expensive fares.
    Personal items fitting under the seat remains free.
    That's in addition to the $15 to $25 fliers will pay for their first checked bag.
    Additionally, seat assignments — even for the dreaded middle seat — now cost an extra $3 for those who buy while booking online; $8 at check-in. If passengers don't pay extra, Frontier will assign them whatever seats are left over.
    Frontier is also following the model of other airlines in charging extra for seats with more legroom or just those closer to the front of the plane.
    For "select" seats, which are just in the front half of the plane, Frontier will charge an extra $5 to $15 per flight, depending on when they are purchased. "Stretch" seats with an extra 5 to 7 inches of legroom — including those in the exit row — will cost $15 to $50 per flight segment, depending on the distance flown. Connecting passengers would have to pay each fee twice.
    Passengers who buy more-expensive, fully-refundable "Classic Plus" fares will get stretch seats for free as well as one checked back and one free carry-on bag. Similar benefits will be given for free to elite members of Frontier's frequent flier program.
    In December, a struggling Frontier was purchased by Indigo Partners LLC, a private equity firm that has revamped several near-bankrupt airlines by changing their business model. One of its latest turnarounds was Spirit, based in Miramar, Fla. Just last week, Frontier named Barry L. Biffle as its new president. Biffle had spent nearly nine year working as chief marking officer of Spirit.
    "Frontier is merely copying Spirit, reflecting its investment by Indigo," said Henry Harteveldt, an airline analyst. "I'm not surprised that the airline is doing this."

  • #2
    It's a great idea - they should eliminate overhead luggage storage

    Probably adds 20 minutes getting on/off the plane.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
      Probably adds 20 minutes getting on/off the plane.


      Just think, wouldn't have to take your shoes off, empty your pockets, or go thru a scanner!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
        Probably adds 20 minutes getting on/off the plane.
        If they do that then TSA and the airlines will need to overhaul their baggage handler staff and/or prepare for numerous theft/damage lawsuits.
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        • #5
          Why is that?

          Everything gets checked - yeah there would be longer lines at checkin tho...
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
            Everything gets checked - yeah there would be longer lines at checkin tho...
            But unless you were traveling without any luggage at all wouldn't you have to wait 20 minutes to get your checked bag anyway?
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            • #7
              Depends on the airport - a dump like Newark, yeah

              Amazing how some places as soon as you get off the plane your luggage is there, other places you wait forever
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
                Everything gets checked - yeah there would be longer lines at checkin tho...
                If all luggage must be checked, it takes valuable items out of the hands of the passenger and puts them in the hands of baggage handlers and TSA/screening personnel. That increases the chance of theft, negligent damage and inadvertent damage to valuables to occur.

                When I and my co-workers travel with high-value items i.e. cameras, computers, work related data/files/documents, etc. we carry it on the plane and therefore the responsibility lies with us rather than baggage handlers. We've had camera equipment that was checked stolen in the past and been told "tough shit".

                And that doesn't even touch on the fact that numerous people don't bring that much luggage when they travel - especially business travelers. Having to check luggage in prior to a flight and having to pick it up at baggage claim rather than just going from transportation to the gate and vice versa is a waste of time for many people.
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                • #9
                  Well obviously you can carry small bags/computers on board

                  Whatever you can fit under the seat in front of you. When I travel for business I always carry on my computer+bag, everything else gets checked.


                  Originally posted by TerpEagle View Post

                  And that doesn't even touch on the fact that numerous people don't bring that much luggage when they travel - especially business travelers. Having to check luggage in prior to a flight and having to pick it up at baggage claim rather than just going from transportation to the gate and vice versa is a waste of time for many people.
                  I don't buy that - when I travel the limo builds so much extra time I'm just waiting around the lounge. THe days of arriving at the airport 15 minutes before a flight leaves are long over
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                  • #10
                    I agree with this. I ordered a slim backpack for my laptop, and that's the only thing I carry on now. I don't check luggage. Everything goes in that bag.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
                      Whatever you can fit under the seat in front of you. When I travel for business I always carry on my computer+bag, everything else gets checked.

                      I don't buy that - when I travel the limo builds so much extra time I'm just waiting around the lounge. THe days of arriving at the airport 15 minutes before a flight leaves are long over
                      Here's my ideal travel plan when I don't have to check bags.

                      Park car/rental. Security. Gate. Plane. Gate. Drive car/rental.

                      When I have to check something it adds in significantly more time. And like I said, I'm not going to check thousands of dollars worth of equipment that won't fit in my computer bag if I can avoid it.

                      Also, for people who don't fly Southwest (and maybe others) you have to pay to check bags as well.

                      EDIT to add.

                      I will say that people do take the carry-on a bit far and bring bags that they should check - especially when they can't lift them into the compartment.
                      Last edited by TerpEagle; 04-28-2014, 05:50 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TerpEagle View Post
                        Here's my ideal travel plan when I don't have to check bags.

                        Park car/rental. Security. Gate. Plane. Gate. Drive car/rental.

                        When I have to check something it adds in significantly more time. And like I said, I'm not going to check thousands of dollars worth of equipment that won't fit in my computer bag if I can avoid it.

                        Also, for people who don't fly Southwest (and maybe others) you have to pay to check bags as well.

                        EDIT to add.

                        I will say that people do take the carry-on a bit far and bring bags that they should check - especially when they can't lift them into the compartment.

                        You mean like those beach bag purses that you could put a 10 year old kid in?


                        BTW, I'll be flying tom. to Philly! Boy gets married on sat.

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