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Originally posted by Maniac View PostValid point. Seattle got a nice draft pick for a receiver who was much more trouble than DJax, had demanded a trade and had a fraction of the production. Also they made sure Harvin didn't end up in their division or even conference.
The Eagles got bupkis and Jackson is now Washington's top receiver. Ouch."If I was racist in my opinion of QB's, I wouldn't have a dog named Donovan." - downundermike
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Originally posted by Sect 236 View PostCan you imagine the posts Maniac would be making if the Eagles handled a situation just like Seattle did here? But, since a team that's not the Eagles did it, he's praising it.
But Harvin is still more talented than any Eagles WR even if he is a dick.Blue Chip College Football - Coach Your College to the National Championship
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I think the point about him going to a division rival is valid, but they are completely different situations. Kelly inherited Jackson, whereas Carroll gave up a lot to go get Harvin and then signed him to a big extension.
According to Andrew Brandt, Harvin will still count 7+ million against the Seahawks cap next year.
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It is completely relevant. When you give up a 1, 3, and 7 for a guy, then get a pick between rounds 4-6 a year and a half later for him, that's a pretty bad deal.
That being said, I would gladly give up a 1, 3, and 7 for a trophy.Last edited by common wealth; 10-18-2014, 02:33 PM.
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I'm not spinning anything, I always have said and will continue to say, the Eagles fucked up the DeSean situation. My point was, if they traded what Seattle traded for Harvin, then flipped him for a lesser return one year later, you would be crucifying them. That's not even up for discussion, we've all seen you post enough to know that's the case.
Also, Harvin isn't better than Maclin. He just isnt. If you want to say that, then you're ranking them based off of who is the bigger name, not who is the better receiver.
Percy is an elite athlete. He can make plays running reverses and screens and what not, but as a true WR, he's not as good as Maclin.Last edited by Sect 236; 10-18-2014, 02:37 PM.
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It's not relevant to their ability to trade him which is what I thought we talking about.Blue Chip College Football - Coach Your College to the National Championship
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Originally posted by Sect 236 View PostI'm not spinning anything, I always have said and will continue to say, the Eagles fucked up the DeSean situation. My point was, if they traded what Seattle traded for Harvin, then flipped him for a lesser return one year later, you would be crucifying them. That's not even up for discussion, we've all seen you post enough to know that's the case.
Also, Harvin isn't better than Maclin. He just isnt. If you want to say that, then you're ranking them based off of who is the bigger name, not who is the better receiver.
Percy is an elite athlete. He can make plays running reverses and screens and what not, but as a true WR, he's not as good as Maclin.
As far as Harvin v. Maclin, you could make a reasonable argument either way. I think the Eagles can do better than either next year.Blue Chip College Football - Coach Your College to the National Championship
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Latest example of Eagles administrative incompetence. 'hawks get a conditional 4th for a less talented and more troubled WR than DeSean Jackson.
Really. I could have accepted trading the guy for a pick like Seattle got for Harvin, but cutting him outright was among the stupidest moves a team could make.Last edited by The Ref; 10-18-2014, 03:36 PM.
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Well, let's see.
First of all ... let's set the record straight ... the franchise you're praising was massively stupid ... it was actually not a 1, it was a 1, a 3, and a 7.
Second of all, all they got for Harvin was a conditional 6 that may go to a 4.
Third, the Eagles tried to move a bad contract in the offseason when all you get is the bad contract ... while the Jets are paying the rest of a this year's salary for a player during the season whose bad contract they can cut loose.
And, it's also arguable that the Jets are either stupid or making a PR move at 1-6.Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.
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How the hell is the Harvin trade
Originally posted by The Ref View PostLatest example of Eagles administrative incompetence. 'hawks get a conditional 4th for a less talented and more troubled WR than DeSean Jackson.
Really. I could have accepted trading the guy for a pick like Seattle got for Harvin, but cutting him outright was among the stupidest moves a team could make.
Maybe your expando TV set has a "front office" section of the screen that tracks trade offers.
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What part of the fact that making a trade for a player during the season is different from after the season don't you get?
It's actually arguable here that the Seahawks could have held out for more from a contender who needs a KR/WR, but were so desperate to get rid of him they grabbed what the Jets offered.Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.
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Originally posted by slag View PostWell, let's see.
First of all ... let's set the record straight ... the franchise you're praising was massively stupid ... it was actually not a 1, it was a 1, a 3, and a 7.
Second of all, all they got for Harvin was a conditional 6 that may go to a 4.
Third, the Eagles tried to move a bad contract in the offseason when all you get is the bad contract ... while the Jets are paying the rest of a this year's salary for a player during the season whose bad contract they can cut loose.
And, it's also arguable that the Jets are either stupid or making a PR move at 1-6.
I didn't praise Seattle. I said they made a deal the Eagles were unable to. How they acquired him is a complete straw man to the discussion - your specialty.
The Jets are paying 6.5 million to Harvin this season. More per game than DJax contract. To a team that is going nowhere.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/18/the-financial-side-of-the-percy-harvin-trade/
A conditional pick out of division is far better than nothing.
The only thing you got right is the Jets may be stupid.Last edited by Maniac; 10-18-2014, 04:20 PM.Blue Chip College Football - Coach Your College to the National Championship
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Originally posted by slag View Post
It's actually arguable here that the Seahawks could have held out for more from a contender who needs a KR/WR, but were so desperate to get rid of him they grabbed what the Jets offered.
Jets got totally used.Blue Chip College Football - Coach Your College to the National Championship
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