Wentz was awful tonight

[slag]

It sucks SO bad. It's really not my fault, though. I blame my supporting cast. Leon can't do EVERYTHING!

They are weak

[slag]

Neither of those are straw men

They're not? Do tell.

[BigSlizz]

It sucks SO bad. It's really not my fault, though. I blame my supporting cast. Leon can't do EVERYTHING!

It sucks that you don't recognize when your own schtick is being thrown back at you. Fuck that ginger pimple faced conceited holy roller.

EDITED TO ADD: And before you tell me you didn't call him that ... my use of "you" here means all of hata-ville ... or is it faux hata-ville?

[art vandelay]

You're so misconstrued. How's this for a straw man ... McNabb is better than Pat Mahomes ... the game is an individual sport.

Neither of those are straw men

[slag]

A straw man is when you refute an argument that was never made. I never said Wentz or McNabb sucked. I never said one being worse than the other implied sucking.

You're so misconstrued. How's this for a straw man ... McNabb is better than Pat Mahomes ... the game is an individual sport.

[art vandelay]

Please ... a straw man is when someone is making a serious argument that is beside the point ... not when someone is sarcastically disagreeing with your player evaluation.

A straw man is when you refute an argument that was never made. I never said Wentz or McNabb sucked. I never said one being worse than the other implied sucking.

[art vandelay]

Roob is right.

However I think I’m missing the part where Wentz always plays great against the Cowboys. He had a good quarter against them last year.

[slag]

https://igglephans.com/iggboard/foru...-wentz-cousins

Just read the thread. Two posts in a row you say that Wentz "sucks" in response to people saying McNabb > Wentz. That is the definition of a straw man.

And no my feeling in general isn't that Wentz is horrendous. Again, that's something I never said, and something that is basically impossible to think about a QB who is obviously a quality starter. See my other post in that thread where I say Wentz doesn't suck, but isn't as good as McNabb.

I'm not sure why you'd be upset over me saying Wentz isn't as good as McNabb. You went ballistic last year when people said McNabb didn't deserve do have his number retired. Wentz needs to have multiple Pro Bowl/playoff seasons before he can be considered as good as McNabb.

Please ... a straw man is when someone is making a serious argument that is beside the point ... not when someone is sarcastically disagreeing with your player evaluation.

EDITED TO ADD: You comparing Wentz in his 3d year ... which, considering the injuries isn't really his 3d year ... to McNabb's career is so apples to oranges its part of why I pissed on your conclusion. The other part is because the eye test doesn't back it up either.

[IronEagle]

From Roob's 10 observations about the game last night...

Number Nine... Number Nine...

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelph...s-observations

9. It’s hard to evaluate Carson Wentz because he wasn’t getting any help from anybody, but two lost fumbles and an interception and just 10 completions for 186 yards adds up to one of the worst games of his career. He’s always played great against the Cowboys. This one was a disaster.

[art vandelay]

Straw man my fucking ass ... I was only referring to your "horrendous" analysis tonight ... although I have a feeling that's your opinion in general ... as for my "McNabb doesn't suck?" sarcasm, that refers to the same shit he took here, whether from you or not ... and if you think this guy isn't as good as McNabb, I don't know what you're watching and this is coming from perhaps the biggest McNabb defender on this board

https://igglephans.com/iggboard/foru...-wentz-cousins

Just read the thread. Two posts in a row you say that Wentz "sucks" in response to people saying McNabb > Wentz. That is the definition of a straw man.

And no my feeling in general isn't that Wentz is horrendous. Again, that's something I never said, and something that is basically impossible to think about a QB who is obviously a quality starter. See my other post in that thread where I say Wentz doesn't suck, but isn't as good as McNabb.

I'm not sure why you'd be upset over me saying Wentz isn't as good as McNabb. You went ballistic last year when people said McNabb didn't deserve do have his number retired. Wentz needs to have multiple Pro Bowl/playoff seasons before he can be considered as good as McNabb.

[art vandelay]

You see lots of guys running short patterns he's missing? You see Pederson running those plays and open guys being ignored? I'm not being sarcastic here ... I'm seriously asking.

EDITED TO ADD: Who's the Edelman here that he's not hitting on quick slants and digs?

So when Wentz starts playing well, does he get the credit, or does it go to Pederson for calling the plays and the receivers for getting open?

[slag]

I like Wentz, but, he holds the ball too long most of the time. There’s a reason the teams with QB’s who get rid of the ball quick enjoy consistent success.

You see lots of guys running short patterns he's missing? You see Pederson running those plays and open guys being ignored? I'm not being sarcastic here ... I'm seriously asking.

EDITED TO ADD: Who's the Edelman here that he's not hitting on quick slants and digs?

[Ellsworth]

I like Carson. The team they've built around him is completely wrong. They have big, power-forward type jump ball players. Carson throws darts and lasers, not jump balls.

This is a horribly, horribly constructed football team.

I like Wentz, but, he holds the ball too long most of the time. There’s a reason the teams with QB’s who get rid of the ball quick enjoy consistent success.

[slag]

It sucks that Wentz embarrasses you into defending him each week. I love the guy and am perfectly happy.

It sucks that you don't recognize when your own schtick is being thrown back at you. Fuck that ginger pimple faced conceited holy roller.

EDITED TO ADD: And before you tell me you didn't call him that ... my use of "you" here means all of hata-ville ... or is it faux hata-ville?

[thegodfather]

The two of you are so clueless ... 70 percent of the QB's in the league would have been sacked 15 times tonight.

Oooh ... he made a bad throw ... nobody does that.

Ooooh he took his eye off the snap in a game when his line can't block anyone and they're losing by 20 with 11 minutes to go.

He's horrendous

EDITED TO ADD: I noticed you didn't play this boring schtick until he made a couple of bad plays when the game was totally out of hand.

100% correct no QB in the league could have played well under tonight's conditions