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  • royal
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    Browns just hired Stefanski over Saleh & Bienimy. Saleh’s defense crushed Stefanski yesterday & Stefanki offense does not compare to KC.

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  • royal
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    If Josh Mcdaniels was black he would never get another interview for HC after stinking it up in Den & flaking with Ind.

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  • 3rd & Inches
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    Originally posted by PackWest View Post
    The Rooney Rule was devised and written to create equal opportunity - and from that POV - its been successful. More opportunities have been created, more real (and sham) interviews have been conducted and more men of color have had the chance to put their best foot forward. The recent whining is about how many are currently HC's but that number goes up and down over time in the Not For Long league
    I don't believe you can force any owner to choose somebody, that's just not realistic. Keep creating opportunities - that's what the Rooney Rule is about. It does not contemplate results
    Stating facts isn't whining.

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  • PackWest
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    The Rooney Rule was devised and written to create equal opportunity - and from that POV - its been successful. More opportunities have been created, more real (and sham) interviews have been conducted and more men of color have had the chance to put their best foot forward. The recent whining is about how many are currently HC's but that number goes up and down over time in the Not For Long league
    I don't believe you can force any owner to choose somebody, that's just not realistic. Keep creating opportunities - that's what the Rooney Rule is about. It does not contemplate results

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  • thegodfather
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    Originally posted by 1960 View Post
    Might be working against minority coaches getting jobs. If a team just has to check the box to interview minority coaches there is an easy out. I’m not a quota guy but something needs to be done. I also think there should be pressure on flagship franchises like the Giants and Cowboys to set an example.
    JERRUH brought in Marvin Lewis after he decided to hire McCarthy, how that is not an infraction I do not know.

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  • 06hawkalum
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    Originally posted by Ground_Meat View Post

    He had 3 and I think he should be a HC. I’m just not buying the fact that GMs are specifically not hiring black HCs because of racism.

    Look at a guy like Dave Gettleman...the guys is incredibly close to being fired. Don’t you think if your job depends on it, you’d hire Bieniemy if you believed he’s the best fit? Maybe he’s just dumb...which is quite possible.

    It isn’t a matter of explicit racism, it’s implicit bias. People are more likely to hire people who look like them and have a similar cultural background.

    I see this first hand in my own organization. Our management team has been a “girl’s club” for over 20 years. Every single management hire has been a woman. Furthermore, the owner is black and nearly all of her management hires across the enterprise have been black.
    Last edited by 06hawkalum; 01-10-2020, 12:55 PM.

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  • Ground_Meat
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    Originally posted by Spartan92 View Post

    Did he even get any interviews?
    He had 3 and I think he should be a HC. I’m just not buying the fact that GMs are specifically not hiring black HCs because of racism.

    Look at a guy like Dave Gettleman...the guys is incredibly close to being fired. Don’t you think if your job depends on it, you’d hire Bieniemy if you believed he’s the best fit? Maybe he’s just dumb...which is quite possible.
    Last edited by Ground_Meat; 01-10-2020, 09:03 AM.

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  • Ground_Meat
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    I get it... The owners can only be “Kind of” racist...

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  • McCarthy12
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    Originally posted by Ground_Meat View Post

    So if all these owners are so racist and don’t want to win, why draft / sign black players?
    This is terribly naive.

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  • Ground_Meat
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    Originally posted by 3rd & Inches View Post

    You are a naive dumb fuck.
    So if all these owners are so racist and don’t want to win, why draft / sign black players?

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  • 3rd & Inches
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    Originally posted by Ground_Meat View Post
    There’s a reason and it’s not because he’s black. Owners want to WIN...it brings in MORE money. That’s all they care about.
    You are a naive dumb fuck.

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  • 1960
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    Originally posted by Ground_Meat View Post

    Yes, they took them because they’re white...70% of the players (maybe higher) are black. Gimme a break...
    100% of the owners are white. Might have something to do with it.
    Last edited by 1960; 01-09-2020, 11:41 PM.

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  • 1960
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    Originally posted by Ground_Meat View Post
    There’s a reason and it’s not because he’s black. Owners want to WIN...it brings in MORE money. That’s all they care about.
    Yep, Joe Judge is the answer.

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  • Ground_Meat
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    There’s a reason and it’s not because he’s black. Owners want to WIN...it brings in MORE money. That’s all they care about.

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  • Spartan92
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    Originally posted by Maniac View Post

    How does Eric Bieneny not get a job?
    It may not make sense at all but maybe because everyone considers Andy Reid the play caller and if that is the reason that is a piss poor way of thinking.
    ​​​Reich didn't call the plays either but got a HC job??? Seems weird. Did he even get any interviews?

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