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  • Maniac
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    Originally posted by Drama Queen View Post

    Right. He was set him up to fail with organizational incompetencies regarding personnel acquisitions over the course of five years.

    Kind of long-winded though.
    He had a bad season and ran away like a little baby to his mother.. The horrible organization made the playoffs three times and won the Superbowl over the course of five years.

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  • McCarthy12
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    Originally posted by Drama Queen View Post

    Right. He was set him up to fail with organizational incompetencies regarding personnel acquisitions over the course of five years.

    Kind of long-winded though.
    This may be true but they didn't run him out of town. Closer to the opposite. He said he questioned wanting to be here the minute he was benched. They fired the coach who benched him. He still forced a trade. Sure, Howie is the problem, but Carson quit.

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  • desertcogo
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    I am so sick and tired of both Howie and Lurie running things. They needed to stay at #6 and draft a can't miss WR and give Hurts someone to throw to to be successful. Howie always thinks he's being so cute and the smartest person in the room and picks someone who has everyone scratching their heads. I still remember the video of the Vikings draft room laughing when they saw Howie pick Reagor and left Jefferson sitting in their laps.

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  • Drama Queen
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    Originally posted by Maniac View Post

    Gets tiresome, doesn't it.
    Right. He was set him up to fail with organizational incompetencies regarding personnel acquisitions over the course of five years.

    Kind of long-winded though.

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  • Maniac
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    Originally posted by McCarthy12 View Post

    They ran Wentz out of town?
    Gets tiresome, doesn't it.

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  • Maniac
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    Originally posted by joydivision View Post

    I agree. However, you seem to have more faith in their ability to have a good draft (when they need a Great draft IMO). With an already crappy team around Hurts what are you judging him on if you already have the notion to get a different QB
    I have no faith in their ability to draft but we're stuck with Howie. I still think you'll be able to make a reasonable judgment on Hurts. Wentz wasn't benched because of the lack of talent around him. He played his way to the bench.

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  • McCarthy12
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    Originally posted by Spartan92 View Post

    Kind of agree but isn't this the same idea they had with 11 before they ran him out of town? Surround him with mediocrity, draft shit for 4 years and boot him out? Makes drafting Hurts with a 2nd even more dumb knowing he really wasn't the plan moving forward. If you were done with 11 they could have drafted Chinn and still traded 11 and used a bridge QB or a year in 21 while retooling with 2 drafts but nope these guys are fucked. There is never any logic to anything they do.
    They ran Wentz out of town?

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  • joydivision
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    Its exactly the same. Laurie and Howie couldn't emotionally handle winning the SB. They made bad decisions since, which corroded the caoching staff, players and direction of the team. And its obvious they are not Football Guys.

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  • Spartan92
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    Originally posted by joydivision View Post

    I agree. However, you seem to have more faith in their ability to have a good draft (when they need a Great draft IMO). With an already crappy team around Hurts what are you judging him on if you already have the notion to get a different QB
    Kind of agree but isn't this the same idea they had with 11 before they ran him out of town? Surround him with mediocrity, draft shit for 4 years and boot him out? Makes drafting Hurts with a 2nd even more dumb knowing he really wasn't the plan moving forward. If you were done with 11 they could have drafted Chinn and still traded 11 and used a bridge QB or a year in 21 while retooling with 2 drafts but nope these guys are fucked. There is never any logic to anything they do.

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  • joydivision
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    Originally posted by Maniac View Post


    Now they get a season to look at Hurts and three first round draft picks to decide which way to go in 22. First smart move by Howie in a while.
    I agree. However, you seem to have more faith in their ability to have a good draft (when they need a Great draft IMO). With an already crappy team around Hurts what are you judging him on if you already have the notion to get a different QB

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  • Loki
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    Originally posted by thegodfather View Post
    We all know Hurts isnt their guy, they are also in deep on Watson (according to reports) so if they tried to trade to 3 and are trying to get Watson then Hurts is not the guy.
    There is no way that Lurie would add Watson to the team with all of that baggage.

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  • Maniac
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    Originally posted by thegodfather View Post
    We all know Hurts isnt their guy, they are also in deep on Watson (according to reports) so if they tried to trade to 3 and are trying to get Watson then Hurts is not the guy.
    If they weren't good with Hurts, they would have stayed at 6.

    Now they get a season to look at Hurts and three first round draft picks to decide which way to go in 22. First smart move by Howie in a while.

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  • Maniac
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    Originally posted by Spartan92 View Post
    Fell apart moved back. Guess Hurts isn't Howie's or Lurie's boy either. Hurts must feel really good right about now hahaha. These guys are fucked. Incoming B C J for sure.

    Don't draft a sure fire perennial pro bowler like Chase, Surtain or Pitts at 6 just trade back and draft a guy who should be picked on day 2 like usual.. Hahahha. Wow
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    Howie must not have wanted Wilson that much if he wouldn't outbid the Fins. 6 to 3 had to be way cheaper than 12 to 3.

    They'll do fine at 12 and adding another 22 1st. There will still be either a big time CB or WR still on the board.

    Would like to see them trade 37/84 for 25-ish.

    And depending on the board they could trade down again from 12.

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  • BigSlizz
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    Hurts isn't Wentz. He had enough experience with this in college to be stable in this situation.
    Last edited by BigSlizz; 03-27-2021, 03:41 PM.

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  • Ground_Meat
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    Originally posted by Kelly Pat View Post
    I can't believe all the qb love in this draft, not saying Wilson doesn't pass the sniff test. Best player available at 12 will be an offensive lineman.
    This

    i hope they are smart enough to take Slater if he’s there.

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