Howie tried to trade up to 3 for QB Zack Wilson

[Melchior]

Hurts isn't Wentz. He had enough experience with this in college to be stable in this situation.

Who cares? Hurts is a bum. Only QB to actually put up worse stats than Wentz last season. 9 Fumbles. 1-read and go, linear runner. He sucks.

Sewell is gone at 12 and they are really weird with picking Guards/Centers. I don't remember them drafting interior OL in the 1st round since Danny Watkins.

It'll probably be Waddle or something like that.

[CbEagle]

I am fine with the Birds not being all in on Hurts yet, they like us only saw glimmers of what he can do and would be extremely prudent to hedge their bets and possibly three first rounders can do that. Why get a receiver at 6 if your qb cant get him the ball like Wentz, so I wil support their actions on Hurts for now.

[Ground_Meat]

Fell apart moved back. Guess Hurts isn't Howie's or Lurie's boy either. Hurts must feel really good right about now hahaha. These guys are fucked. Incoming B C J for sure.

Don't draft a sure fire perennial pro bowler like Chase, Surtain or Pitts at 6 just trade back and draft a guy who should be picked on day 2 like usual.. Hahahha. Wow

I’ve seen this a few places but according to an SI article by Albert Breer from this morning...Howie began talking to the Phins a couple weeks ago. I’m not sure this screams “Jalen is NOT our guy”...

[Maniac]

scorned

it wasn’t my intention to insult you (but I did it, and I accept full responsibility, and it’s kind of funny) but my point is, Lurie is accountable for this mess. He responsible for it. Carson made the right decision. He’s not the villain. I believe minds around the NFL are laughing (which they literally have) and know where the fingers need to be pointed.

second tier FA’s
sexond tier coaches

the word is out. The Eagles are a shoddy organization right now

I didn't mean to insult you either. Just banter. I'm not going to run off to Indianapolis.

Lurie is accountable. Howie is accountable. Carson doesn't like being accountable.

When I get my ass kicked, I want a rematch. Even if I know my team is outgunned. Obviously that isn't Carson. I predict he's retired by age 31.

[2Far]

Absolutely would have felt better with these guys just taking a consensus pick at #6, a good player that everyone else agrees should star in the league. Any position.

Now they just have more draft picks to mess up with their own choices who won't even be in the league at all.

[Drama Queen]

I don't know. I can totally understand having zero faith in Howie. That's how I feel. But that terrible GM gave him $120 million.

I'd probably feel odd forcing my way out after playing as poorly as he did last year. Lack of weapons or not, he didn't play well. He's started one playoff game and has won zero. I might feel like I still had unfinished business with the Eagles.

That terrible GM doesn’t get a pass for doing his job and handing out fair (team friendly) contracts to players.

I don’t buy the tough-it-out and prove to everyone your mettle when he was set up to fail. Bottom line: they set his ass up to fail and Lurie said so much when he eluded to the all-in-now excuse over the last three years regarding personnel acquisitions in their effort to win championship.

it’s an excuse because their collective draft picks have been a big fail and had nothing to do with winning now.


it’s a bullshit shit show.

[McCarthy12]

Ok. But the bottom line is this. If you were Wentz , would you have forced a trade out to the Colts, or would you stay put with the current hand you were dealt in Philly?

I don't know. I can totally understand having zero faith in Howie. That's how I feel. But that terrible GM gave him $120 million.

I'd probably feel odd forcing my way out after playing as poorly as he did last year. Lack of weapons or not, he didn't play well. He's started one playoff game and has won zero. I might feel like I still had unfinished business with the Eagles.

[Drama Queen]

You still on your period about Wentz? You can always follow him to a great organization like the Colts. I hear that Jim Irsay runs a helluva tight ship. Carson might even share his tampons with you.

scorned

it wasn’t my intention to insult you (but I did it, and I accept full responsibility, and it’s kind of funny) but my point is, Lurie is accountable for this mess. He responsible for it. Carson made the right decision. He’s not the villain. I believe minds around the NFL are laughing (which they literally have) and know where the fingers need to be pointed.

second tier FA’s
sexond tier coaches

the word is out. The Eagles are a shoddy organization right now

[Maniac]

This organization was on a race to the bottom with poor personnel decisions over the past 5 years. And so here we are.

Do you wish Wentz were here? Are you glad he’s gone? Are you saying he’s a little baby which in turn will make him a detriment in Indy?

Don’t be a Wentz detractor and then a scorned women once he leaves.

You still on your period about Wentz? You can always follow him to a great organization like the Colts. I hear that Jim Irsay runs a helluva tight ship. Carson might even share his tampons with you.

[Drama Queen]

I struggle a little with the notion that they forced his hand. Sure, they did him no favors from a personnel standpoint but he made a choice. Samecwas true for McNabb for many years. He could have tried to stick it out with the organization that gave him a huge contract and fired the SB winning coach that benched him. It's fine that he wanted out, but I'm not shedding any tears for him.

Ok. But the bottom line is this. If you were Wentz , would you have forced a trade out to the Colts, or would you stay put with the current hand you were dealt in Philly?

[McCarthy12]

I agree. They didn’t run him out of town. They set him up to fail and forced his hand if you agree with Tony Dungy.

I struggle a little with the notion that they forced his hand. Sure, they did him no favors from a personnel standpoint but he made a choice. Samecwas true for McNabb for many years. He could have tried to stick it out with the organization that gave him a huge contract and fired the SB winning coach that benched him. It's fine that he wanted out, but I'm not shedding any tears for him.

[joydivision]

Having said that. Carson from the beginning happily accepted that roll. And buckled physically and then mentally in front us. KILL-KILL KILL-KILL KILL-KILL KILL-KILL KILL-KILL

[Drama Queen]

He had a bad season and ran away like a little baby to his mother.. The horrible organization made the playoffs three times and won the Superbowl over the course of five years.

This organization was on a race to the bottom with poor personnel decisions over the past 5 years. And so here we are.

Do you wish Wentz were here? Are you glad he’s gone? Are you saying he’s a little baby which in turn will make him a detriment in Indy?

Don’t be a Wentz detractor and then a scorned women once he leaves.

[joydivision]

We are stuck with Howie.

Howie and Laurie have their "jobs" regardless of their bad decisions. Failing at every junction to improve or sustain the team that won in 17, While putting the team/onus on Carsons back, as well as the coaching staff with a goal to repeat in 18 & 19. Same goal in '20. Same bad decisions by Howffrey(we could all come up with list that we could all agree on,right?). Same onus(s), while losing faith in Carson & letting him know it(Fair but stupid).
Without condoning the sabotage, I can't fully blame Carson for his attitude to Sour
while Howffrey has the job security to make blatant and redundant mistakes which directly affect Carson ability to succeed.

[Drama Queen]

This may be true but they didn't run him out of town. Closer to the opposite. He said he questioned wanting to be here the minute he was benched. They fired the coach who benched him. He still forced a trade. Sure, Howie is the problem, but Carson quit.

I agree. They didn’t run him out of town. They set him up to fail and forced his hand if you agree with Tony Dungy.