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  • Kelly Pat
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    PTL Tony

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  • Maniac
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    Originally posted by Melchior View Post
    Wentz is a baby for not wanting to squander his career on a rudderless ship with a clueless GM.
    The clueless GM built a Superbowl winner with a journeyman QB, a hayseed head coach and a bunch of spare parts..

    Howie's got a lot of faults but he still a top 15 GM. The Eagles are far from a rudderless franchise. They make the playoffs more often than not.

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  • Phire Phat Phuck
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    To be honest, I never was a Wentz fan. I think and still do, that we should have kept Foles, traded Wentz when was really still worth something, drafted a rookie QB to learn under Foles. While Foles was not going to be a full season long QB due to possible injuries, would our win/loss record have been any worse than it was in 2020? I still think Wentz left his guts on the field in LA after Marc Barron crushed his knee. I do not think he will ever be the same again. I do not think he has the mental toughness to forget he will always be vulnerable. No matter who for or where he plays. Some players have it, the ability to come back and play to greatness after an injury, some don't. That's all there is to it.

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  • art vandelay
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    Originally posted by Melchior View Post

    Well, he did deserve the starting job. All QBs are prima donnas. They wasted draft assets on a QB while the team was crumbling around him. If you take away the rushing stats, Hurts and Wentz are almost identical passers in that dumpster fire last year, but yeah, Wentz is a baby for not wanting to squander his career on a rudderless ship with a clueless GM.

    That FO knows full well that this fanbase has a raging hardon for backup QBs - especially ones that can run. When they benched Wentz, they basically pinned all of the offense's problems on him from a public perception standpoint. And as we saw, they still sucked donkey nuts with Hurts in.
    I'm not sure about the FO pinning the offense's problems on Wentz. IMO they waited as long as they possibly could to bench him, and once they did the offense was better than it had been in almost two months. If Wentz doesn't get benched that week 16 Dallas game isn't even meaningful.

    I would expect a 5th year QB to be better than a rookie who was considered a reach/project. I get that the offense they ran with Hurts was unsustainable, but I genuinely surprised by how much better they "looked," even given that a mobile QB can help with that.
    Last edited by art vandelay; 03-29-2021, 12:00 PM.

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  • Melchior
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    Originally posted by desertcogo View Post
    Wentz was a prima donna who felt he deserved the starting qb job. There were several areas of his game that were weak but he sure didn't believe that to be true. I'm glad that he's gone, along with his attitude and unless he's willing to change that attitude I don't see how it will be different in Indy for him.
    Well, he did deserve the starting job. All QBs are prima donnas. They wasted draft assets on a QB while the team was crumbling around him. If you take away the rushing stats, Hurts and Wentz are almost identical passers in that dumpster fire last year, but yeah, Wentz is a baby for not wanting to squander his career on a rudderless ship with a clueless GM.

    That FO knows full well that this fanbase has a raging hardon for backup QBs - especially ones that can run. When they benched Wentz, they basically pinned all of the offense's problems on him from a public perception standpoint. And as we saw, they still sucked donkey nuts with Hurts in.
    Last edited by Melchior; 03-29-2021, 11:11 AM.

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  • 2Far
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    Originally posted by DEERSPINE GUY View Post

    IF HE HAS RECEIVERS THAT KNOW HOW TO RUN ROUTES, CAN ACTUALLY CATCH, AND AN O- LINE THAT CAN BLOCK, HE WILL.
    UNLIKE HE HAD HERE.
    Absolutely. You take a team that Shotput Rivers did okay on and insert Wentz I don't see how anyone can say that's a downgrade for anyone involved.

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  • Drama Queen
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    Originally posted by TRENT View Post
    if he continues to hold the ball and not throw it on Timing; he will suck no matter where he goes.
    Nice way to hedge. If he’s good, it’s because he took on some self improvement.

    He’s going to have a good year and won’t be because of pussy fine tuning and shit. Get real.

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  • Drama Queen
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    Originally posted by DEERSPINE GUY View Post

    IF HE HAS RECEIVERS THAT KNOW HOW TO RUN ROUTES, CAN ACTUALLY CATCH, AND AN O- LINE THAT CAN BLOCK, HE WILL.
    UNLIKE HE HAD HERE.
    You were never a detractor like, Loki so I get your mindset.

    Let’s give the floor to Loki. He thinks Wentz will flourish? Wow.


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  • DEERSPINE GUY
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    Originally posted by Drama Queen View Post
    Why do you think he will flourish there?
    IF HE HAS RECEIVERS THAT KNOW HOW TO RUN ROUTES, CAN ACTUALLY CATCH, AND AN O- LINE THAT CAN BLOCK, HE WILL.
    UNLIKE HE HAD HERE.

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  • Drama Queen
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    Originally posted by Loki View Post
    He’s in Indy now. I’m sure he’ll flourish in that backwater burg.
    Why do you think he will flourish there?

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  • Loki
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    He’s in Indy now. I’m sure he’ll flourish in that backwater burg.

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  • Drama Queen
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    Originally posted by TRENT View Post
    if he continues to hold the ball and not throw it on Timing; he will suck no matter where he goes.
    Be sure to point out his new mechanic improvements... and don’t forget to praise Reich this season.

    I think a lot of people will take comfort in this.

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  • TRENT
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    if he continues to hold the ball and not throw it on Timing; he will suck no matter where he goes.

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  • Drama Queen
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    Originally posted by desertcogo View Post
    Wentz was a prima donna who felt he deserved the starting qb job. There were several areas of his game that were weak but he sure didn't believe that to be true. I'm glad that he's gone, along with his attitude and unless he's willing to change that attitude I don't see how it will be different in Indy for him.
    Cool. Tony Dungy and Mel Kiper’s opinion contrasts yours.

    Without looking, I’m sure Las Vegas does as well.
    Last edited by Drama Queen; 03-28-2021, 09:11 AM.

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  • desertcogo
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    Wentz was a prima donna who felt he deserved the starting qb job. There were several areas of his game that were weak but he sure didn't believe that to be true. I'm glad that he's gone, along with his attitude and unless he's willing to change that attitude I don't see how it will be different in Indy for him.

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