Hurts vs Mac Jones

[DEERSPINE GUY]

TRADITIONALLY, RUNNING QB'S DON'T EVEN SNIFF LATE JAN, FEB FOOTBALL.
BUT MAYBE HE CAN TURN INTO A MORE TRADITIONAL QB EVENTUALLY.
ONLY TIME WILL TELL.

[McCarthy12]

And from Rube:

And if you look at total 1st downs by QB, passing and rushing combined, Jalen is 8th in the NFL:

159 ... Mahomes
144 ... Brady
143 ... Allen
142 ... Stafford
141 ... Lamar
128 ... Herbert
124 ... Tannehill
123 ... Hurts

I think he is 3rd in the league in rushing first downs by all positions. I'm far from sold on Hurts but there are some reasons for optimism. Also, I don't see any sure thing QB's in the upcoming draft so absent a trade I'm not sure it doesn't make sense to stick with Hurts into next year. Use the draft picks elsewhere.

[Lar6767]

And from Rube:

And if you look at total 1st downs by QB, passing and rushing combined, Jalen is 8th in the NFL:

159 ... Mahomes
144 ... Brady
143 ... Allen
142 ... Stafford
141 ... Lamar
128 ... Herbert
124 ... Tannehill
123 ... Hurts

And 3 of the 7 had their numbers padded by playing against Jonathan Gannon.

[Bardy]

I think you'd need a garbage time filter to really do a fair comparison. 8 of Hurts' 16 TDs have come with the Eagles down by 2+ scores in the 2nd half.

I think I'd also need a coaching quality filter - as one is coached by a certain HOF'er and the other by a rookie HC.

[jrachiever]

I think you'd need a garbage time filter to really do a fair comparison. 8 of Hurts' 16 TDs have come with the Eagles down by 2+ scores in the 2nd half.

[BigSlizz]

You know that's impolite to point out.

Very impolite.

[nick foles taint flap]

Although a running QB might not be sustainable in the long run...what Hurts brings running the football can't be understated. Guy's on pace for 950 yards and 9 TDs on the ground this year. Those yards and TDs count just as much as if they happened through the air.

If my memory is correct, he picked up 6 first downs with his legs on Sunday. 5 of them were 3rd down conversions.

Another underrated part of Hurts' game: he avoids the big negative play. TOs are killers and he commits them at a pretty low rate.

[art vandelay]

Saw this tweet. In general, I think the comparisons of Hurts in X amount of starts to other QBs are kind of misleading. He's in his 2nd year, so he should be outperforming rookies. A a running QB, he's bound to put up more total yards, and he's compiled a decent amount of garbage time numbers this year. QBR is meaningful though and I agree re: Mac Jones. The guy could be really good but I think he's overrated right now, partially just because Belichick drafted him.

I agree they need to go defense early next year, unless a great offensive player falls into their lap. Definitely no reason to reach on a QB.

[CbEagle]

You know that's impolite to point out.

[Bardy]

And from Rube:

And if you look at total 1st downs by QB, passing and rushing combined, Jalen is 8th in the NFL:

159 ... Mahomes
144 ... Brady
143 ... Allen
142 ... Stafford
141 ... Lamar
128 ... Herbert
124 ... Tannehill
123 ... Hurts

[Bardy]

I don't hear any criticisms of Mac Jones - because the narrative coming in said that he is good.

I didn't put this tweet together, but it is interesting:

Jalen Hurts vs. Mac Jones Head to Head, 9 games each:

Passing TDs: Hurts- 11 Jones- 10

Total TDs: Hurts- 16 Jones- 10

INT's: Hurts- 4 Jones- 7

Total YPG: Hurts- 275 Jones- 240

Attempts: Hurts- 273 Jones- 300

Passer Rating: Hurts- 91 Jones- 89.8

Hurts also leads in QBR.


The Eagles need to re-stack the defense. I'd give Hurts another year. I'd use our first 4 picks on defense.