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  • Spartan92
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    I was a Wentz fluffer but agree it was time he needed a change of scenery. He could have never been successful here too many ghosts haunting him and not sure he will even get back to 2017. That being said, Hurts has had his moments and it's nice to see a run game. He has improved over the season but I doubt he will ever mature in the pocket and in today's NFL you better be able to chuck the ball of you are going to keep up. If we get down on the scoreboard, running the ball ain't going to cut it and I am not sure Hurts and his 1st read and bail pocket presence will have what it take to get it done.

    Will he mature, maybe. But I don't think his deep ball accuracy nor his arm strength will get better and that is what will ultimately dedide his fate at QB as a long time starter in the NFL.

    Not sure why defences aren't playing 8 and 9 in the box or spying him and daring him to beat them with his arm. Would be interesting to see if he can do that a few games in a row.
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  • Greenstealth
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    Originally posted by Birdwatcher View Post
    He started 5 games last year, had a couple of plays here and there in games with Wentz, and this season, not exactly an experienced vet yet, but I guess you think he has topped out? Won't get any better? Don't bother answering. I have obviously upset you, and I am sorry, it's New Years and the birds are going to the playoffs (and I say 1 and done) so don't let me bring you down. BTW, I am enjoying the ride, what's not to enjoy? Life is too short, peace brother.
    I'm not upset one bit. You keep asking me questions and not liking the answers or saying "don't bother answering". Why ask the question? If you want the last word there's better ways to do it. Do I think he'll get better? Yeah he'll improve some but I think he's really really far away from being a good to great passing QB in the league. I think his leadership qualities are off the charts but when the rubber meets the road he's ultimately limited.

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  • Drama Queen
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    Originally posted by wynnron123 View Post
    I'm not sure if Hurts is the answer moving forward but for me he is such a breath of fresh air. I was watching the Colts-Raiders game today and I'm still happy that the Eagles made that decision.
    He’s a Pro Bowl alternate.

    Eagles need to move forward like he’s the answer and pick up talent in this coming draft.

    In the playoffs, the expectation is that Hurts plays like a Pro Bowl alternate. There is no looking back.

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  • Birdwatcher
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    He started 5 games last year, had a couple of plays here and there in games with Wentz, and this season, not exactly an experienced vet yet, but I guess you think he has topped out? Won't get any better? Don't bother answering. I have obviously upset you, and I am sorry, it's New Years and the birds are going to the playoffs (and I say 1 and done) so don't let me bring you down. BTW, I am enjoying the ride, what's not to enjoy? Life is too short, peace brother.

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  • Greenstealth
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    Originally posted by Birdwatcher View Post

    No I just have patience, and I am sorry that your evaluation of him does not inspire confidence in me, you are just another armchair critic. Years of playing college football doesn't make him any less a rookie, not technically, but he started just a few games on a dysfunctional team last year, I don't know if he has it in the long run, and though you are sure you do, it is still just your speculation. I'm just saying there are other parts we should address next draft rather than another QB, the crop ain't that impressive this year anyway. Maybe they keep Minshew, or trade him and sign another vet to back up Hurts, but if Howie wastes a lot of capital for a QB in the draft, then I will be pissed.
    He's started more than a season worth of games in the NFL. He's not a rookie by any measure. When I say anything about him in college, it's referencing the fact that he's still playing the same way. I'm not trying to sway you to think any particular way. I don't really care if you're Hurts's number one fan or his biggest hater. You're the one asking if part of the "instant gratification generation", I answered and gave you my reasoning. I'm not rooting against Hurts. My honest evaluation, which you can wipe your ass with for all I care, is that this team has gotten by on an incredibly soft second half schedule. Enjoy the ride

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  • art vandelay
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    Hurts definitely isn’t a rookie.

    I thought he was pretty good today. Should have gotten a PI call on the last pass to Reagor IMO.

    One problem with him is kind of the converse of what happens with the defense. Long drives mark it hard to score a lot of points. I think they had 3 possessions in the first half today.

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  • Birdwatcher
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    Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post

    No, I'm not. Are you part of the be happy with a shitty product because other products are worse generation? I've watched Hurts for years. He's not basically a rookie. He could end up being "very good" but I'd rather not have my team forfeiting entire seasons trying to nurture him. A college program didn't want to waste an entire season with him when they had Tua waiting in the wings LOL. He's inherently flawed. If they decide to roll with him, I hope I'm wrong and he makes me Stfu.
    No I just have patience, and I am sorry that your evaluation of him does not inspire confidence in me, you are just another armchair critic. Years of playing college football doesn't make him any less a rookie, not technically, but he started just a few games on a dysfunctional team last year, I don't know if he has it in the long run, and though you are sure you do, it is still just your speculation. I'm just saying there are other parts we should address next draft rather than another QB, the crop ain't that impressive this year anyway. Maybe they keep Minshew, or trade him and sign another vet to back up Hurts, but if Howie wastes a lot of capital for a QB in the draft, then I will be pissed.

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  • Mr. Triple Dip
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    Originally posted by wynnron123 View Post
    I'm not sure if Hurts is the answer moving forward but for me he is such a breath of fresh air. I was watching the Colts-Raiders game today and I'm still happy that the Eagles made that decision.
    this is where I’m at, not convinced Hurts is the guy but I felt the same way about Wentz(and still do). On the bright side they aren’t paying Hurts like he’s the guy

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  • wynnron123
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    I'm not sure if Hurts is the answer moving forward but for me he is such a breath of fresh air. I was watching the Colts-Raiders game today and I'm still happy that the Eagles made that decision.

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  • Greenstealth
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    Originally posted by Birdwatcher View Post

    Are you a part of the instant gratification generation? For basically a rookie, he has had an above average season, even compared to some QBs that went on to become great. Not saying he is going to do that, but he has improved over the season, sure he needs to get better in certain areas, but with his style of smart running (he slides or gets out of bounds more often than he takes a hit), he could end up being very good. Beef up the D and get a couple of OL for Stout to teach, and we could be real contenders next year.
    No, I'm not. Are you part of the be happy with a shitty product because other products are worse generation? I've watched Hurts for years. He's not basically a rookie. He could end up being "very good" but I'd rather not have my team forfeiting entire seasons trying to nurture him. A college program didn't want to waste an entire season with him when they had Tua waiting in the wings LOL. He's inherently flawed. If they decide to roll with him, I hope I'm wrong and he makes me Stfu.

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  • Birdwatcher
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    Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post

    Thanks I'll pass.
    Are you a part of the instant gratification generation? For basically a rookie, he has had an above average season, even compared to some QBs that went on to become great. Not saying he is going to do that, but he has improved over the season, sure he needs to get better in certain areas, but with his style of smart running (he slides or gets out of bounds more often than he takes a hit), he could end up being very good. Beef up the D and get a couple of OL for Stout to teach, and we could be real contenders next year.

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  • Greenstealth
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    Originally posted by Maniac View Post
    Looks good enough to start next season. Need to fix the defense.
    Thanks I'll pass.

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  • Maniac
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    Looks good enough to start next season. Need to fix the defense.

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  • Greenstealth
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    He missed some plays but I thought he was excellent for the most part in the first half... Getting a little shaky as of late. Have to put it away here

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  • 1960
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    Play calling there was awful.

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