Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Talking heads RE: Foles & tag

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Drama Queen
    replied
    You heard correctly and I believe you are correct with your thought process.

    Leave a comment:


  • Ground_Meat
    replied
    Originally posted by nerd View Post

    Also, schefter had his podcast yesterday and I think he said that there is nothing "illegal" about the eagles franchising Foles and then trading him. Could have heard it wrong though.
    You are correct.

    Leave a comment:


  • nerd
    replied
    To be honest, if they had no intention of tagging him and just taking the comp pick, wouldn't they have already come out and said that by now?

    If they haven't, at least to me, it means that they have at least had conversations with teams about a trade for Foles and that the talks aren't complete garbage.

    If team (or teams) weren't interested at all, I don't see what would hold the eagles back from just announcing asap that they aren't going to franchise Foles.

    Also, schefter had his podcast yesterday and I think he said that there is nothing "illegal" about the eagles franchising Foles and then trading him. Could have heard it wrong though.

    Leave a comment:


  • Drama Queen
    replied
    Haha. I like it!

    What do you think the Eagles have/will be doing during this 3 week time period? Sitting around the phone waiting for a sucker to call or proactively bullshiting with teams like thet’re running a pawn shop?

    Leave a comment:


  • Greenstealth
    replied
    Originally posted by Drama Queen View Post
    I’m saying the Eagles are willing to assume the risk of keeping Foles. I’m also saying that the Eagles risk assumption creates a market for Foles.
    Ok I'll stop. I'm tapping. I'll go recalibrate.

    Leave a comment:


  • Drama Queen
    replied
    I’m saying the Eagles are willing to assume the risk of keeping Foles. I’m also saying that the Eagles risk assumption creates a market for Foles.

    Leave a comment:


  • Greenstealth
    replied
    So you think the eagles are willing to essentially tank this year's cap to try and get something marginally better than the comp pick they'll get?

    Leave a comment:


  • Drama Queen
    replied
    Fortunately, the Eagles have proven they are not adverse to risk.

    Originally posted by art vandelay View Post
    I don't think it's about avoiding a bidding war as much as it's about a team getting their guy. If the Jags, for example, want Foles, I think it would be worth at least a 3rd for them to keep him from going to the Redskins or the Dolphins.

    Denver just gave up a 4th for Joe Flacco. Wouldn't the Ravens have cut him if they hadn't found a suitor?
    ...and what’s the risk here: having to franchise Foles and keep him on the roster the entire year because you can’t find a trade partner? Ok.

    Baltimore found a trade partner willing to take Flacco, who is a 34 year old QB and making $23m a year, for a mid 4th round pick. Denver certainly didn’t wait for Flacco to be cut because Washington was sniffing around.

    Foles is 30 with a much better resume over the past 3 years. He is the consensus best available QB even when Flacco was on the market. Are teams going to wait for him to be cut because they don’t want to pay north of a 4th round pick?

    I don’t think so.

    Leave a comment:


  • Greenstealth
    replied
    I'm not entirely familiar with Flacco but I'd have to assume he would have been cut, he's still under contract though. It's not like the ravens would have to bluff a tag to try and get a return. https://www.phillyvoice.com/what-doe...nd-nick-foles/
    I fall in line with kempski's thinking at least on this matter.

    Leave a comment:


  • art vandelay
    replied
    I don't think it's about avoiding a bidding war as much as it's about a team getting their guy. If the Jags, for example, want Foles, I think it would be worth at least a 3rd for them to keep him from going to the Redskins or the Dolphins.

    Denver just gave up a 4th for Joe Flacco. Wouldn't the Ravens have cut him if they hadn't found a suitor?

    Leave a comment:


  • Greenstealth
    replied
    I guess we'll see. I just don't see a scenario where Foles stays for more reasons than just money.

    Leave a comment:


  • Drama Queen
    replied
    Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post
    And told me I'm struggling...

    The simplest answer for all of this is Foles walks in free agency and the eagles get a comp pick. Agreed? OK. Since you pointed out how simple everything is, it's more likely to you to assume the eagles are operating behind the scenes with team x and foles is in cahoots as well because WHY WOULD HE WANT TO GO INTO FREE AGENCY? If he did that he'd choose his team and salary. Is it possible that Howie finds a really stupid trade partner and foles is on board? Sure, it is possible, but how could you find that more likely and less complicated?
    Ok, I agree that you hold the mantle for the least complicated scenario.

    My big assumption is that the Eagles are willing to keep Foles rather than give him away for a comp. 3rd.

    So with that said, I think you’re wrong to call any team a stupid trade partner. There are many reasons already mentioned as to why it would make sense for a team to trade (draft pick or players) for the best QB on the market.

    And Foles can choose to accept the $25m tag and sit on the bench and wonder if he will be traded to a team on a one year lease, or he can choose to participate in his own destiny and sign a long term contract and security that comes with that.

    Leave a comment:


  • Greenstealth
    replied
    You had to edit that post

    Originally posted by Drama Queen View Post
    You’re struggling.

    I gave you all the information you needed in the early part of Feb. and yet here you are, miffed as ever.
    And told me I'm struggling...

    The simplest answer for all of this is Foles walks in free agency and the eagles get a comp pick. Agreed? OK. Since you pointed out how simple everything is, it's more likely to you to assume the eagles are operating behind the scenes with team x and foles is in cahoots as well because WHY WOULD HE WANT TO GO INTO FREE AGENCY? If he did that he'd choose his team and salary. Is it possible that Howie finds a really stupid trade partner and foles is on board? Sure, it is possible, but how could you find that more likely and less complicated?

    Leave a comment:


  • Drama Queen
    replied
    Right, but it’s possible that Foles will still be property of the Eagles after 3/15. It’s certainly not ideal.

    Leave a comment:


  • art vandelay
    replied
    The Pats tagged and traded Cassell under a different CBA that possibly had no provision for that. In any case, tagging and trading Foles would only be a problem if Foles decided to file a grievance. And he doesn't seem inclined to do that.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X