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Unread 09-18-2018, 10:29 PM   #1
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We desperately need a WR and we have Matthews and Maclin coming in for workouts. Soft. Carson is going to come back Sunday with who to throw to? Maybe Nick Foles? Even if Gordon or Dez didn’t know a single play they’d command attention and open up everyone else. Genius by NE to even stash him up there!!!

This is beating a dead horse I know it just sucks going into a weekend that should feel awesome with Wentz coming back but feels ominous. I know I know get a dog. Sunday sucked. The FF castoffs aren’t going to be a spark.
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Unread 09-18-2018, 10:43 PM  
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Carson Wentz is a weapon
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First of all they need someone for THIS WEEKEND. Matthews knows the offense. Anyone else you bring in here is not going to be ready to play by Sunday. Who else you going to sign? No one is going to trade a WR after 2 games. And all of those people who think the Steelers are going to somehow trade Brown right now or anytime are living in a fantasy world. Same with Davante Parker, although I said previously it doesn't seem like he and Gase like each other at the moment.

You got Kenny Britt, Eric Decker Dez, and a few other non descript WRs out there as street FAs. Let's remember that Gordon is one strike away from being permanently banned from the league. Plus, he lied to the Browns. He said the photoshoot was for his clothes line but it was a football promotion and that's how he got hurt last Friday. This organization doesn't need that headache.

At least Wentz and Matthews had a strong connection when he was here before.
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Incredibly underwhelming Not that the eagles were in a position with any leverage but Matthews sucks. I guess knowing the offense is really valuable. Now McShovelhands can push agholor out of the slot...
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Yup. He can make a lesser group of receivers look better. Just like Brady, Rodgers and those guys. Get Jeffery back and we'll be OK.

Matthews can't catch but he at least knows the offense and Wentz likes him, which counts for something. For a week or two it'll do if he's healthy.
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He must have caught a few balls ... he led the Eagles' WRs in receiving the 2 years before he left ... the last one with Wentz throwing to him.

Maybe you're confusing him with Nelson Agholor.
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I know he put up numbers. But if you think he didn't have issues with dropped balls, you're misremembering.
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He dropped some dramatic situation throws ... but I just looked ... the prior years he was in Philly he had the best catch percentage (targets to catches) of all receivers every year (except one year when Josh Huff had a better percentage on only 17 targets).

I don't know what he has injury-wise but he's familiar with the offense, loved playing with Wentz, hated being traded, and had one shit year when he got hurt.

If he's healthy he's not a bad player ... particularly if he's not the primary target.
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they just did
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Are you going to take that from your uncle slag?
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I seriously believe they should use Foles as a receiver in goal line situations. Ertz, Dallas, Foles and Alshon! Who can cover these four long receivers. Foles is a great athlete.
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Hasn't dropped one yet.
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Dump a girl, lock up a ting, and then go back to the first girl for any reason.
IF SHE GIVES DECENT HEAD YOU DO. EVEN IF SHE DRIBBLES, I MEAN DROPS A FEW.
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I'm not hating on it. It fills what is hopefully a short term need. I think you are right, too, that he is better when he is not supposed to be "the guy." He may actually fill in best after Jeffery returns (if they hold on to him).
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SUSP

between Maclin getting cold feet on Chip Kelly, and Howie trading Matthews, I'm wondering what FF castoffs you're talking about.
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this is all accurate. if the guy were as incapable of catching passes as everyone is implying, he wouldn't have averaged 75-900-6 in his first three seasons.

once jeffery comes back, it will be the first time that matthews has played with a good group of receivers. i'm not really sure if he's at his best when he's not the primary target, because he was always the primary target on the eagles, and in a passing league that leads to volume numbers. but he was the best option available both for this week and for when jeffery comes back.

agholor is also a lot better than he was when matthews was last on the eagles. they can move both guys around and play to their strengths. neither has to be used strictly on the outside or in the slot.
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Matthews has never played outside. They needed a guy to stretch the field to replace Wallace. If Matthews didn't suck he wouldn't have been looking for a job
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If he's healthy he's not a bad player ... particularly if he's not the primary target.
I guess thats fair but we all know the reception numbers exaggerate his value. Nobody can say the Eagles missed Jordan Matthews. He was not an impact player.

He's been texting Wentz trying to catch on with the Eagles since the Pats cut him. If he wasnt one of Wentz best friends and only getting 800K, unlikely he'd be back.

Maybe the best of the short term options but ideally Jeffery should be the #1, Agholor should be in the slot and the third WR should be an outside guy who can stretch the field. Matthews is not a good fit once AJ is back. I don't like him pushing Ags out of the slot and am slightly concerned that Wentz will subconsciously favor him at the expense of better players. Matthews should be a fourth or fifth read never a primary target.

I can see the argument but I wouldn't have brought him back with AJ so close to returning. Feels like a pity fkkk of an ex-gf. They rarely work out well.
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Matthews has never played outside. They needed a guy to stretch the field to replace Wallace. If Matthews didn't suck he wouldn't have been looking for a job
THERE ARE NO JERRY RICE'S OUT THERE THIS TIME OF YEAR. HE'S A DECENT STOP GAP FOR THE POSITION, ALSO HE AND WENTZ HAVE A GOOD REPPORT. HE HAD 60 TO 80 CATCHES A YEAR ON HIS LAST TIME HERE.

I'M GOOD WITH IT.
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