Zimmerman not guilty

[CCPete]

I thought the prosecution got a gift when the Judge allowed the lesser charge of Manslaughter to be considered by the jury. They never came close to proving 2nd degree murder. But the State of Florida managed to turn Manslaughter instructions into something that allows the jury to be more confused than properly informed with a clear direction. When that happens, it's an open door to reasonable doubt.


http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/...crime-defined/

[Riccardo]

your link says he waived it

Good God man you're wrong. Admit it and move on!

[CCPete]

Admit what?

[Riccardo]

What??

nm

[CCPete]

That's what I thought. You bring nothing.

[Riccardo]

I wasn't talking to you

And you apparently couldn't even understand the question to DQ, i.e. you're an idiot

[AnnapolisEagle]

Legally, I guess it could be the right verdict for the case the prosecution (badly) presented. Morally, it's garbage.

I felt like the DA should have stressed that Martin was being pursued and had a right himself to confront a threat. There is no altercation without Martin's foot pursuit -- one the dispatcher told him not to engage in. Martin felt threatened, according to the testimony of the girl he was on the phone with. And the prosecution should have stressed how Martin was unarmed and, therefore, unlikely to willingly engage an unknown person who was pursuing him.

If Martin thinks he's being pursued by some dude who might rob or otherwise harm him, he'd almost have to assume he's at a disadvantage (that is, believe the other guy must be armed).

I thought once the jury asked about manslaughter, they'd get him on that.

-AE

[CCPete]

Damn, you stroll down memory lane without a single thought on you mind. I posted the rules for a manslaughter charge. I wasn't answering anyone's questions. I knew you were one of the dumber ones here. You prove that almost daily. But you continue to break your own record of stupidity.

[royal]

If you look at Riccardo's comment it was in response to another poster. Don't think he was talking about your post.

[Riccardo]

correct

cc is just a bitter, clueless moron. Get's beat up on just about every topic. No surprise here.

[3rd & Inches]

I have mixed emotions about adding anything to this thread. I grew up in the dirty-dirty south and I'm not surprised by this verdict. Everytime I visit family in Georgia, I feel like I traveled back in time. The separation of races still exist there.

So many things I want to say, but I'll just say this one point: In my 37 years on this earth, it doesn't matter how educated I am, doesn't matter what uniform I wore, doesn't matter that I can sit in front of the bus...I'm still a nigga.

[slag]

Not that cc isn't a twat but the link said what I said ... he waived a pretrial hearing on SYG, not the SYG defense at trial.

[McCarthy12]

Did he invoke it though. Everything I have read/heard indicated that he did not. Just relied on classic self defense.

[rdog5]

Legally, I guess it could be the right verdict for the case the prosecution (badly) presented. Morally, it's garbage.

I felt like the DA should have stressed that Martin was being pursued and had a right himself to confront a threat. There is no altercation without Martin's foot pursuit -- one the dispatcher told him not to engage in. Martin felt threatened, according to the testimony of the girl he was on the phone with. And the prosecution should have stressed how Martin was unarmed and, therefore, unlikely to willingly engage an unknown person who was pursuing him.

If Martin thinks he's being pursued by some dude who might rob or otherwise harm him, he'd almost have to assume he's at a disadvantage (that is, believe the other guy must be armed).

I thought once the jury asked about manslaughter, they'd get him on that.

-AE

Is it possible that a badly prosecuted case is the direct result of lack of evidence to prove the case?

What is lost here is the multiple bad decisions which led to a tragedy. There are the listed tragedies for George Zimmerman such as staying in his vehicle and not following Trayvon Martin. But why didn't you list the bad decisions of Trayvon Martin? In the 4 minutes from the phone call to the time of the assault, Trayvon had more than enough time to be home and sitting on his couch. Trayvon could had a little less pride and instead of attacking as is alleged asked Zimmerman why is he following him?

Can you at least agree that if Trayvon attacked George Zimmerman in broad daylight out of no where and Zimmerman believed he was in danger of death or serious injury that he would be justified in his use of deadly force?

[slag]

I'm not sure ... I only watched recaps on CNN and other media outlets, but don't recall them making a point of if.

I guess that points more toward them not using it because I would think commentators would have focused on SYG if it was a part of the defense.