When you compare what Kelly has to start with with what Reid (FF) had to start with

[bobbyuk]

Tell me who Reid had on offense when he came in.What quality did he have?? He had Hoying, Peete, and Detmer as his QBs. What WRs did he have? Other than Tra Thomas who had a shit year and had to have a kick up the ass, what O linemen did he have? You and 2 gaps hate for Reid borders on insanity. You don't think Celek is a top 15 TE in the league?? C'mon dude. Get serious.
As far as the defense, Trotter had to have his ass kicked as well when Reid came in because he underperformed badly as a rookie 3rd round pick.

[CbEagle]

Yo dumbass look at this list and compare it to 2013, the fat fuck had a pretty good roster which to work with compared to chippy

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/...es/roster/1999

[Maniac]

Tell me who Reid had on offense when he came in.What quality did he have??

Duce was a perfect fit for Reid's offense.

[Drama Queen]

You and Ref are out of your fuckin' minds if you think Reid didn't inherit better talent.

Tra Thomas started off fast his first year and proved himself right off the bat. Dawkins first year in 1996 was promising and by the 3rd year, he was playing at a pro bowl level but had some fuck vets in the NFC getting the nod.

Vincent, Taylor, Harris, Trotter (Bobby Beathard said was a steal at the time of the draft!), Hugh Douglas, Mike Caldwell (who I personally liked), Ike Reese, Hollis Thomas were all inherited. Fuckin A! Anyone would love to have that secondary handed to them! That's the hardest think to fix on D.

Plus Tra Thomas, Duce, Jemaine Mayberry.

That's a way better nucleus than what you've come up with in 2013.

[Drama Queen]

Oh, and don't call me a Reid hater. Anyone who pays attention to my post (not too many) knows that I'm an avid Reid supporter despite his shortcomings. His talent evaluation was horrendous.

[RSE]

Plus William Thomas. Shit, that's practically an entire defense.

Plus the number two pick in a QB heavy draft (admittedly requiring the right choice).

[IronEagle]

Plus William Thomas. Shit, that's practically an entire defense.

Plus the number two pick in a QB heavy draft (admittedly requiring the right choice).

If you could give the 2013 Eagles defense talent like that they would be in contention for a wildcard playoff spot, IMO.

[Drama Queen]

Yeah, and this argument is not even close.

Your right, getting the right QB was a plus and he did up grade the offense. Getting Runyan was a key but he already wanted to come to the area because his wife was from NJ or somewhere local. Reid never did up grade the WR corp until it was too late but I give him a lot of credit for improving the O.

The Ref and UK are out of their fuckin' minds on this and the draft sucked over the coarse of 10+ years!

[J_Cuz31]

If you could give the 2013 Eagles defense talent like that they would be in contention for a wildcard playoff spot, IMO.

This whole thread is insane.

Andy Reid was given a roster with FIVE future pro bowlers in the secondary alone!!!!!

Al Harris
Bobby Taylor
Allen Rossum
Brian Dawkins
Troy Vincent

For anyone to compare that roster to the dreck the Eagles currently have on roster is ridiculous.

[Drama Queen]

Just the secondary alone... geezus God.

Hell, I rank Vincent as the best Eagles CB in my time (yes over Eric Allen) and then you add in Dawkins? WTF?

Just so I'm clear. Dawkins was a certified stud by year 3! Even as a rookie he was damn mpressive!