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  • how do u talk to your kids about molly? Electric Zoo aftermath

    Its everywhere right now. From bubblegum pop stars to every rapper. Madonna. Its a massive part of party and dance music culture. 2 kids just died at Electric Zoo and the NYC shut the festival down.

    I have a 16 yr old cousin who I know thinks taking molly is cool...( She isnt wrong...lets be real here...in the moment, its fucking awesome). But doesnt seem to grasp what it really does to you. I gave her the party smarter, not harder routine because I know I cant stop her.

    Im just curious what you old fogies tell your kids about drugs. Especially after something like that.
    WANGNUTIAN. (pronounced wang-nooshan, martian)

  • #2
    dont mess with Molly

    im a 16 year old kid and i just dont get it. you have to be so f**king dumb to take a hit of molly. Its ]like taking an ice cream scoop to your brain. There's a good chance that it causes alzheimers and dementia but we really cant know for sure how terrible the long term effects are because the drug is so new that no studies like that have been done on it. Plus you never know the quality of its manufacture because its a street drug, it could be cut with something like heroin and you might not know until its too late. They could also screw up the solvents and produce a bad batch(not particularly uncommon because lets be real, the people making this stuff arent using proper pharma equipment and dont have sufficient knowledge in the field). I love ragers as much as the next guy but ill never drop anything like that to have a better time... you can still have fun at a party without risking your future success in life.

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    • #3
      According to this article, a lot of the stuff being sold as Molly is adulterated with stuff like bath salts.

      http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_n...her-drugs?lite
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      • #4
        Originally posted by IronEagle View Post
        According to this article, a lot of the stuff being sold as Molly is adulterated with stuff like bath salts.

        http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_n...her-drugs?lite
        Yeah, one thing to tell kids is, "Don't do drugs you can't actually identify. They could be anything. This is why we need to legalize and regulate them, so you can use them in moderation in pure, relatively safe form once you are mature enough. But the government is composed of idiots who don't care if you die."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FuriousXGeorge View Post
          Yeah, one thing to tell kids is, "Don't do drugs you can't actually identify. They could be anything. This is why we need to legalize and regulate them, so you can use them in moderation in pure, relatively safe form once you are mature enough. But the government is composed of idiots who don't care if you die."
          how would they accomplish this? are you saying pharma companies like gsk and phizor should manufacture X? it would never pass the FDA... and if magically it did in your scenario, they would get hit with so many law suits it would make your head spin. then on account of this they would charge insane amounts for it and all of a sudden people on the streets go back to manufacturing it in sketchy labs because thats the only thing the average person can buy and we are right back in the situation we're in now. non synthetic drugs are the only ones you could ever hope to legalize because then you dont go through the whole manufacturer/FDA ordeal.

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          • #6
            Jesus christ u are an idiot
            WANGNUTIAN. (pronounced wang-nooshan, martian)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Diggle View Post
              Jesus christ u are an idiot
              i would bet $$$ that im smarter than you are

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              • #8
                I suppose the best thing to do is to be frank and honest. Talk about what it is, what the dangers are, and trust that the kid is smart enough to make sound decisions. Take the mystery and glamor out of it.

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                • #9
                  One talking to is not going to do it

                  It's really about what you've done since the time they were born. Is there love in the house? Do you and your wife show affection toward each other and toward the kids. Are the parents on the same exact page when it comes to discipline. Do they see the parents abusing alcohol and drugs? Are you honest with your kids? Do they respect you? Do you respect them? Do you take time to talk or do you just tell them to go play and you go watch the basketball game? Do you LISTEN to them? Are you so strict as a parent that they have to hide things from you? Do you have so many rules that they feel suffocated? Do you work to build up their self esteem? I could go on and on. The point is that it's not as easy as one discussion.

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                  • #10
                    as a dead head now a parent

                    I tell the kids if you don't know what it is; Don't do it!..Don't take Psyco active drugs in a Public setting either, Simple.

                    when I was 17 MDMA Was a real thing,,it was fun,,,LSD Was clearly stronger, after about 86 MDMA was gone and Ecstasy was in..Not the real deal,,this shit is cutt with so much bullshit you don't know what you're getting,,

                    they say its Pure,,,pure bullshit,,Molly is not a good trip,,and like most Hallucinogens has risks,,especially down the road......My twins are 18 soon,,they know about these drugs,,and they like Rave type scene....I can only give them solid advice and let them understand,,I'd rather they call me and freak out in the basement than stay in a bad situation and suffer..let them know you're not going to kill them over trying something, but you would rather they steer clear....really sad those kids lost their lives to such garbage..

                    Psychedelic experiences are best for those people who possess a certain calm demeanor in the face of uncertainty,,to obtain enlightenment, dwelve deeper into themselves or just to understand the drug itself.or " Smoke weed and listen to pink floyd Umagumma":D

                    if you're not a stable intelligent person,,I would not recommend it...
                    Last edited by TRENT; 09-04-2013, 10:04 PM.
                    OFFICIAL BOARD DRUG CZAR
                    "BFTR"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TRENT View Post
                      if you're not a stable intelligent person,,I would not recommend it...
                      Pretty much underscores my reasons for not taking anything seriously psychoactive. Basically I'm f*cked up enough when straight.

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                      • #12
                        Use rubbers and be back by 1:00am

                        ... or your ass is grounded!

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                        • #13
                          Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!

                          I'd say that covers %99 of the board!
                          OFFICIAL BOARD DRUG CZAR
                          "BFTR"

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                          • #14
                            We don't have basements in Florida. Should I just let them stay in a bad situation and call me in the morning?

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                            • #15
                              You just said that you were 16

                              Originally posted by RomoIsClutchSaidNoOneEver View Post
                              i would bet $$$ that im smarter than you are
                              and you also used the expression "hit of molly."

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