Was there a fumble on the play where Floyd got injured?

[IronEagle]

It looked like he made a football move with the ball before being clobbered.

Also, wouldn't have been a "defenseless receiver" penalty if he hadn't assumed possession of the ball before getting hit like that?

[Greenstealth]

I made a thread on this very subject yesterday

It looked like he made a football move with the ball before being clobbered.

Also, wouldn't have been a "defenseless receiver" penalty if he hadn't assumed possession of the ball before getting hit like that?

http://www.juanelway.com/the-hit-tha...com-floyd-gif/

I can't believe there was no challenge no replay, nothing. It was pretty much ignored even in the broadcast.

[IronEagle]

http://www.juanelway.com/the-hit-tha...com-floyd-gif/

I can't believe there was no challenge no replay, nothing. It was pretty much ignored even in the broadcast.

From that gif, it appears the ball was coming out even before the crushing hit. And I see a couple of steps there. Ball was coming out before his knee was on the ground.

I'll betcha the announcers were given the word in their earpieces to not talk about that aspect of the play. Maybe the coaches too.

[Greenstealth]

It was bizarre

From that gif, it appears the ball was coming out even before the crushing hit. And I see a couple of steps there. Ball was coming out before his knee was on the ground.

I'll betcha the announcers were given the word in their earpieces to not talk about that aspect of the play. Maybe the coaches too.

I think dierdorf said it wasnt a fumble before the replays were even showing and that was it. Nothing was brought up again. Bizarre. No challenge, nothing.

[IronEagle]

I think dierdorf said it wasnt a fumble before the replays were even showing and that was it. Nothing was brought up again. Bizarre. No challenge, nothing.

Hard to believe that wasn't reviewed. The ball was definitely coming out before his knee was down and before the final hit.

And if it wasn't a catch why wasn't there a penalty for a hit on a "defensiveless receiver"?

The only conclusion I can come to is that at the moment in the context of the injury they didn't want to go there.

[Riccardo]

I remember tbey said it was called on the field incomplete

Hard to believe that wasn't reviewed. The ball was definitely coming out before his knee was down and before the final hit.

And if it wasn't a catch why wasn't there a penalty for a hit on a "defensiveless receiver"?

The only conclusion I can come to is that at the moment in the context of the injury they didn't want to go there.

But that's still challengeable right?

[Greenstealth]

It should be

But that's still challengeable right?

As long as there was a clear recovery (which there was)

[Irish George]

deff a fumble and chip addressed this at presser today

Hard to believe that wasn't reviewed. The ball was definitely coming out before his knee was down and before the final hit.

And if it wasn't a catch why wasn't there a penalty for a hit on a "defensiveless receiver"?

The only conclusion I can come to is that at the moment in the context of the injury they didn't want to go there.

said he talked to ref and felt a challenge would not have overturned it. I do think it was a fumble.

[RSE]

I don't.

[IronEagle]

I don't.

Don't think it was a fumble or don't think it would have been overturned? I didn't have the benefit of any replays at the time because they always cut the video to the main boards when plays like that happens.

[RSE]

I don't think it was a fumble. I think if you asked anybody who watched the game on television, whether, if the tables were turned and that had been Avant instead of Floyd, would we be justified in saying it wasn't a fumble, they'd say yes.

[TerpEagle]

I don't think it was a fumble. I think if you asked anybody who watched the game on television, whether, if the tables were turned and that had been Avant instead of Floyd, would we be justified in saying it wasn't a fumble, they'd say yes.

I think you can make the argument it was against his body based on that angle until his knee comes down. I'd guess that it would be a "not enough visual evidence to overturn" situation.

[Greenstealth]

You're probably right

I think you can make the argument it was against his body based on that angle until his knee comes down. I'd guess that it would be a "not enough visual evidence to overturn" situation.

and we are just rabbit hunting here anyway, it just seemed like it was just discarded. There are better replay angles, it looked like a fumble to me.

[Irish George]

From my angle in the endzone...

I don't.

it looked to be a no doubt about it fumble. But they did not show a replay because the injury was gruesome. I'll take your word for it.