Not that is mattered

[TerpEagle]

Completely disagree ... that's total HS Harry shit.

This team may not be able to stop 3d and 10 from the 5 yet in a big spot, but he needs to realize that when they can, throwing away early points haunts your ass.

Based on the philosophy of his offense it shouldn't matter if they miss that or not. They're supposed to score a lot of points (they didn't last night). The benefit is that it would put the opposing team in a bit of a hole if it works but it's about risk/reward.

Anyway, plays like that make football more exciting. I'm not watching the game to see coaching play it conservatively (and against the odds). Kelly needs to get better execution from the team but I have no problem with the decision.

And it had pretty much no bearing on the outcome of the game.

[slag]

STFU already.

It's the NFL ... you don't play like it's highschool.

You kick the fucking point.

[TerpEagle]

Enough ... there is no arguing this.

You kick the fucking point in first half.

That's it, there is no discussion.

Yes there is. Coaches are scared to be aggressive. It sucks and it's not necessarily smart football.

http://www.boydsbets.com/nfl-two-point-conversion-success-rate/

The net point success percentages are nearly identical for 2 points conversions compared to kicking the PAT. And, in most cases, the defense EXPECTS the conversion attempt which undoubtedly helps them defend it.

Stop being a grumpy old man wishing for the good 'ol days.

[TerpEagle]

STFU already.

It's the NFL ... you don't play like it's highschool.

You kick the fucking point.

No Fun League.

[slag]

Enough ... that game came down to crunch time and it was 7 instead of 6.

If that doesn't prove you're wrong I have no use for you.

[TerpEagle]

They have a lot of personnel issues to fix before those strategic angles are going to matter.

It was pointless - no pun intended - but it didn't bother me.

I agree. I still think they need to mix it in - I don't think they're talented enough to just give up punting/kicking altogether.

[Maniac]

How different was that than going on fourth down in the first quarter of the Washington game? Conventional NFL wisdom says take the three and get ahead on the road.

[slag]

No FuckingMorons League

[TerpEagle]

Enough ... that game came down to crunch time and it was 7 instead of 6.

If that doesn't prove you're wrong I have no use for you.

Then you have no use for me because that deficit did not change how the game played out. Had the Eagles tied it and gone to OT and lost - perhaps. But they gave away points consistently. That single point shouldn't have made any difference - and it didn't but in the other direction.

Christ, they spotted them 3 points to start the game.

[TerpEagle]

No FuckingMorons League

Kelly has said and shown that he will break conventional wisdom based on evidence and science. There is plenty of analysis to show that playing as conservative as most NFL coaches do (punting, kicking, PATs) is actually a poor strategy and leaves points on the board.

But most NFL coaches are creatures of habit and/or scared to be too bold because some fans (no one here of course) will ream them out when it doesn't work in a given instance.

[slag]

Different kind of aggression.

38 yard FG should be made but not as automatic as an extra point.

[TerpEagle]

Different kind of aggression.

38 yard FG should be made but not as automatic as an extra point.

But it's higher value - 3 points is half a TD.

[slag]

You don't give away automatic points versus low percentage 2's early in the fucking game.

There is no argument.

[TerpEagle]

You don't give away automatic points versus low percentage 2's early in the fucking game.

There is no argument.

It's not low percentage. It's just under 50% based on teams going for 2 in typical situations where the defense expects it.

So over the course of the game/season it's more likely even percentage if not higher based on the ability of a team to execute.

[slag]

This isn't a fucking math problem.

Two point conversions in the first half is HS Harry.