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  • This team isnt as bad as it seems

    They do miss Maclin - on offense thats about it for the offensive side of the ball. They will get better when the remove Vick and insert Foles. It is just a mater of time this happens. Vick sadly never will have the head or the size to be a great NFL QB. Let Foles see what he can do - if he cant produce then move on next draft with your franchise qb. If he can you concentrate on the d backfield in the draft.

    Playing Vick is a huge waste this season because he is not the qb of the future, Foles is and if it isnt him you need to find out now and move on next season

    On Defense its a different story. The defensive backfield is an abortion

    Get Byrd FS buffalo in Free agency - draft the best CB there and do it again in the second round. Then look for someone the best Lbs they can get in the following rounds or maybe find some gems in free agency.

    Remove little Howie from having anything to do with the draft. Let Chip and Gamble get it done.

  • #2
    Originally posted by iowaigglefan View Post
    They do miss Maclin - on offense thats about it for the offensive side of the ball. They will get better when the remove Vick and insert Foles. It is just a mater of time this happens. Vick sadly never will have the head or the size to be a great NFL QB. Let Foles see what he can do - if he cant produce then move on next draft with your franchise qb. If he can you concentrate on the d backfield in the draft.

    Playing Vick is a huge waste this season because he is not the qb of the future, Foles is and if it isnt him you need to find out now and move on next season
    I agree Vick area is obviously done after this year, but disagree Foles is the answer for this offense. Running the spread with a non running QB is pointless. I think running the O with Vick this year will give Chip a good idea what will work and what won't, then bring in Boyd or Bridgewater...and booya....until, of course, they tear an ACL.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by iowaigglefan View Post
      They do miss Maclin - on offense thats about it for the offensive side of the ball. They will get better when the remove Vick and insert Foles. It is just a mater of time this happens. Vick sadly never will have the head or the size to be a great NFL QB. Let Foles see what he can do - if he cant produce then move on next draft with your franchise qb. If he can you concentrate on the d backfield in the draft.

      Playing Vick is a huge waste this season because he is not the qb of the future, Foles is and if it isnt him you need to find out now and move on next season

      On Defense its a different story. The defensive backfield is an abortion

      Get Byrd FS buffalo in Free agency - draft the best CB there and do it again in the second round. Then look for someone the best Lbs they can get in the following rounds or maybe find some gems in free agency.

      Remove little Howie from having anything to do with the draft. Let Chip and Gamble get it done.

      they also need a KICKER who doesnt suck.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ground_Meat View Post
        they also need a KICKER who doesnt suck.
        Kicker is #1 priority in offseason. (I'm joking, but then again, not too much).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DJCon57 View Post
          I agree Vick area is obviously done after this year, but disagree Foles is the answer for this offense. Running the spread with a non running QB is pointless. I think running the O with Vick this year will give Chip a good idea what will work and what won't, then bring in Boyd or Bridgewater...and booya....until, of course, they tear an ACL.
          Pats run the spread - is Brady a track star?\

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          • #6
            Originally posted by iowaigglefan View Post
            Pats run the spread - is Brady a track star?\
            You're right. Comparing Nick Foles to Tom Brady is valid.

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            • #7
              If you limit the discussion to mobility, they are comparable.

              I said it before and I say it again ... Vick has a better arm and and can run, but Foles plays a more methodical game and is better for this defense.

              I guaranfuckintee if Vick gets hurt, watch how much more the TE gets involved.
              Last edited by slag; 09-20-2013, 12:56 PM.
              Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DJCon57 View Post
                You're right. Comparing Nick Foles to Tom Brady is valid.
                We dont know what Foles can be or not be. He played well for a rookie last season on one of the poorest teams ever to suit up. A defense that was a disgrace and an offensive line that was in a shambles.

                Put Brady behind that line last year I dont think he would have produced much more than Foles.

                I am not comparing any player to any player what I mean is they are both similar in mobility. neither runs the ball like Vick but both do a MUCH BETTER job of making the reads and distributing the football.

                Brady got his shot and ever looked back. Id like to see what Foles has is all him saying I believe you are going to get positive results. Foles will play this season for sure. Lets see if Im right or wrong.

                All I know I am tired of watching Vick do the same thing over and over. Hope Chip is tired of it too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bk View Post
                  Kicker is #1 priority in offseason. (I'm joking, but then again, not too much).

                  it's very far down on the list, but he's missed a couple of KILLERS so far...unacceptable.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by slag View Post
                    If you limit the discussion to mobility, they are comparable.

                    I said it before and I say it again ... Vick has a better arm and and can run, but Foles plays a more methodical game and is better for this defense.

                    I guaranfuckintee if Vick gets hurt, watch how much more the TE gets involved.
                    I'm not disagreeing with any of that, but IMO this offense is built for a mobile QB, period.

                    Yes, Brady can run it, because Brady can run anything because of his quick decision making and accuracy. Nothing I've seen from Foles suggests he's Brady like in either of these areas.

                    Again, I'm not saying Vick is better than Foles. I'm saying this offense is built, designed, and will be perfected with a mobile QB.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by iowaigglefan View Post
                      We dont know what Foles can be or not be. He played well for a rookie last season on one of the poorest teams ever to suit up. A defense that was a disgrace and an offensive line that was in a shambles.

                      Put Brady behind that line last year I dont think he would have produced much more than Foles.

                      I am not comparing any player to any player what I mean is they are both similar in mobility. neither runs the ball like Vick but both do a MUCH BETTER job of making the reads and distributing the football.

                      Brady got his shot and ever looked back. Id like to see what Foles has is all him saying I believe you are going to get positive results. Foles will play this season for sure. Lets see if Im right or wrong.

                      All I know I am tired of watching Vick do the same thing over and over. Hope Chip is tired of it too.
                      Fair enough. I get what you are saying. Trust me, I'm sick of Vick too.

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                      • #12
                        I'm not so sure about Foles.

                        He played very well last year and this preseason with the ones.

                        Just because he didn't impress with the twos and threes doesn't make him a turd yet.
                        Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.

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                        • #13
                          Well...regardless of what we think, the man just spoke at his presser:

                          "Chip Kelly on Michael Vick: "I think Mike played OK.""

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                          • #14
                            Yes! Foles is our new Brady

                            Get Vick out of there and bring in Foles. Someone better tell Chip this new revelation.

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                            • #15
                              chip is probably going to go with vick till he either gets hurt or they are like 1-8...and then he may make a switch.

                              to be honest...if they are going to be bad...i would rather have them be bad and see what foles or barkley can do...they both can probably stink so you know you need a qb next year...on the .01% chance that one of them turns out to be good...then you can spend that first round pick on something else.
                              “I am going to literally sodomize you on the field of battle. I am going to have non-consensual sex with your face and your butt. Then I’m going after your wife and kid”

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