wow the fact Dullas and the Vaggies are willing...

[TRENT]

to let the Old men still play,,,,,the CowGirls wont win more than 7 games with Homo,,and if Sheli has an O line this year,,the Vagiants could win 10 off of a last place schedual...the reality is,,their carrers are over,,Both of them,,think sheli has a few more of "His" good years left...U know 3300 yards 23 td 17 picks.......they both suck donkey dick....lets hope the foreskins dont draft a ton of Oline this year~!

[IronEagle]

to let the Old men still play,,,,,the CowGirls wont win more than 7 games with Homo,,and if Sheli has an O line this year,,the Vagiants could win 10 off of a last place schedual...the reality is,,their carrers are over,,Both of them,,think sheli has a few more of "His" good years left...U know 3300 yards 23 td 17 picks.......they both suck donkey dick....lets hope the foreskins dont draft a ton of Oline this year~!

I'd never write Slackjaw off. He's lucky and you can't teach that.

[3rd & Inches]

I'd never write Slackjaw off. He's lucky and you can't teach that.

Master of the falling back, eyes closed 20 yard touchdown pass.

[TRENT]

I agree 100% there

Thats why I said if the Giants draft oline and bring in some DL Lber help in FA,.,,they could win 10 games....

I expect the Gnats to stick with him. and if you block for Sheli he could be there for at least 3 more years. But in sense,,Both teams are starting guys that are just on their last legs, Gives Chip a window to groom some Qbs if needed..

[Sect 236]

Giants play the 3rd place schedule.

Detroit, Atlanta and Arizona. That's not easy by any stretch of the imagination.

The NFC is pretty stacked. 1-3 in all the divisions is pretty legit.

[TRENT]

yup U never know till game day

who's going to show up.
the Conf has gotten alot tougher..

[IronEagle]

Giants play the 3rd place schedule.

Detroit, Atlanta and Arizona. That's not easy by any stretch of the imagination.

The NFC is pretty stacked. 1-3 in all the divisions is pretty legit.

This is why you gotta take care of business in your own division, and also why McGoddell's ideas of restructuring the divisions and conferences are stupid.

[art vandelay]

yep. a "last place" schedule isn't any easier than a first place schedule. they only face two different opponents. a first place schedule often ends up being easier percentage-wise than a last place schedule. the eagles face the 3-13 redskins twice, whereas the redskins face the 10-6 eagles twice. that accounts for a HUGE change in lagged winning percentage.

manning and romo aren't that old as far as QBs go. their teams definitely won't find better options any time soon. romo is a very good regular season QB but he's the anti-clutch. eli is very clutch given the opportunity, but when he doesn't have a good team to give him this opportunity he's not very good. and this guy will probably end up in the HOF one day. funny how that works.

[Pete]

Actually thought about Slackjaw and the HOF

yep. a "last place" schedule isn't any easier than a first place schedule. they only face two different opponents. a first place schedule often ends up being easier percentage-wise than a last place schedule. the eagles face the 3-13 redskins twice, whereas the redskins face the 10-6 eagles twice. that accounts for a HUGE change in lagged winning percentage.

manning and romo aren't that old as far as QBs go. their teams definitely won't find better options any time soon. romo is a very good regular season QB but he's the anti-clutch. eli is very clutch given the opportunity, but when he doesn't have a good team to give him this opportunity he's not very good. and this guy will probably end up in the HOF one day. funny how that works.

Can't see him in there unless his final career passing stats are HOF-level. "Just" having the 2 rings shouldn't be enough to get him in.

[art vandelay]

i agree that it shouldn't be enough - but it will. jim plunkett is the only QB with multiple rings not in the HOF, and he wasn't very good. every QB with multiple SB MVPs in the HOF.

this discussion opens the door for roethlisberger, who i think is more deserving of the HOF than eli. much of this is based off of postseason victories, and he's been to 3 super bowls. but there isn't room for both guys in the HOF, and eli has a better reputation. roethlisberger will be remembered for having won due to a dominant defense, especially in 05 when he turned in a QB rating in the low 20s in the super bowl. the writers will forget how bad eli was at times, especially since it will probably take him a little while to get in. he'll be remembered for his historically clutch performances, and his bad seasons(like 4 of the past 5 missing the playoffs) will be blamed on his lack of help.

[IronEagle]

i agree that it shouldn't be enough - but it will. jim plunkett is the only QB with multiple rings not in the HOF, and he wasn't very good. every QB with multiple SB MVPs in the HOF.

this discussion opens the door for roethlisberger, who i think is more deserving of the HOF than eli. much of this is based off of postseason victories, and he's been to 3 super bowls. but there isn't room for both guys in the HOF, and eli has a better reputation. roethlisberger will be remembered for having won due to a dominant defense, especially in 05 when he turned in a QB rating in the low 20s in the super bowl. the writers will forget how bad eli was at times, especially since it will probably take him a little while to get in. he'll be remembered for his historically clutch performances, and his bad seasons(like 4 of the past 5 missing the playoffs) will be blamed on his lack of help.

Slackjaw plays in NYC. That's McGoodell's turf

I think both Slackjaw and Eli will be in the HOF. They may even have a little shrine you can go into to pay your respects.

[SCREAMIN EAGLE]

Master of the falling back, eyes closed 20 yard touchdown pass.

Yea, as he blindly puts on his 2 rings.

[The Ref]

This is why you gotta take care of business in your own division, and also why McGoddell's ideas of restructuring the divisions and conferences are stupid.

That's the owner's decision, not Goodell's. He works for them. Agree that expanding the playoffs and playoff seeding is a bad idea, but blame the source, not the puppet.

They also want to expand in Europe and Asia. They've (the owners) come to the realization that the talent pool of home grown American athletes is limited. There are barely enough NFL caliber players to fill 32 rosters, let alone more teams in the future... especially quarterbacks. There are a lot of great athletes around the globe that haven't been exposed enough to American football. Global expansion is necessary for the game to grow.

It could be that future expansion has something to do with wanting to restructure divisions and playoff seeds. Do that now so fans get used to it.

[Riccardo]

Yep. Luckiest sack of shit in the NFL

I'd never write Slackjaw off. He's lucky and you can't teach that.

nm

[JDuggernaut]

If Namath is in, little brother will make it too. 2 rings, plays in NY, he's a Manning. I wonder what impact, if any, Ben's rape saga will play in his HoF bid