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its says more about Chip, Howie and Lurie than DJax if hes cut

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  • #61
    I get you are Djax's bitch

    Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post
    So because only one player had spoken out, jackson is now too out of control for kelly to manage? Like you are privy to some inside knowledge? Shouldn't you be sticking to making bizarre observations about what people say about cooper? Isn't everyone badmouthing and belittling him? Shouldnt you be defending his honor? Time to go to bed, you have school in the morning.
    And you like the player, but what if he is a cancer? Too many people talking about it for it not to have some truth to it. I guess you think stretching the field with a speedy midget is more important than behind the scenes in the locker room/etc...how wrong you are.

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    • #62
      You are dancing all around this thing

      Originally posted by Diggle View Post
      How isnt Djax Chips problem? Hes the fucking coach of the god damned team you retard
      This isn't a god damned line dance...just answer the question don't answer a question with another question. Did he draft Djax? No...he inherited all this from some other guy. If Kelly drafted him, he is to blame. There is a lot of character research going into a team's decision to draft a guy, there is a reason he fell to the 2nd round and now you are seeing why.

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      • #63
        I get it

        Originally posted by Irish George View Post
        and YOU wont answer his question that "Makes sense." ohhhkayyyy
        All you lifers have to stick together even when you're wrong. But you won't scare me into not being objective.
        Last edited by weizer; 03-24-2014, 09:22 AM.

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        • #64
          No, actually you don't get it.

          He's saying that the NFL requires management skills that college doesn't ... because, although college is a business, player leverage isn't nearly the same.

          And he already fucking said it.
          Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.

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          • #65
            Oh shut up already with this.

            The implication from your logic is the moronic notion that Kelly can ignore handling any player he didn't draft.
            Last edited by slag; 03-24-2014, 09:55 AM. Reason: missing word
            Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.

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            • #66
              Well evidently

              Originally posted by slag View Post
              Oh shut up already with this.

              The implication from your logic is the moronic that Kelly can ignore handling any player he didn't draft.
              He can handle it, by trading or cutting anyone who pisses him or others in the organization off. It's a statement. I don't think Kelly is worried about what you and others on this board think about this. If it's better for the team, I am all for it, and after last season, i'll trust Kelly.

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              • #67
                If that's how Kelly is going to handle every situation

                Originally posted by weizer View Post
                He can handle it, by trading or cutting anyone who pisses him or others in the organization off. It's a statement. I don't think Kelly is worried about what you and others on this board think about this. If it's better for the team, I am all for it, and after last season, i'll trust Kelly.
                Just cutting someone who pisses him off, then he really won't last long in the NFL. Diggle already said it, he's dealing with grown men pulling down grown men paychecks. He's not in Eugene anymore. Coaches can't just bully players into doing what they want him to do. Not Kelly, Not Belichick, NO nfl coach can operate that way and stay in the league more than a year or two. Greg Schiano tried it in Tampa, and it got his ass fired.
                Last edited by Eagle In Ohio; 03-24-2014, 12:40 PM.
                The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is - Winston Churchill

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                • #68
                  They most definitely can

                  Originally posted by Eagle In Ohio View Post
                  Just cutting someone who pisses him off, then he really won't last long in the NFL. Diggle already said it, he's dealing with grown men pulling down grown men paychecks. He's not in Eugene anymore. Coaches can't just bully players into doing what they want him to do. Not Kelly, Not Belichick, NO nfl coach can operate that way and stay in the league more than a year or two. Greg Schiano tried it in Tampa, and it got his ass fired.
                  If they make the playoffs every year...Schiano didn't and got the shaft because players didn't respect him...totally different situation but of course you are reaching again. Where is the report that players don't respect Chip? Please I am already laughing my ass off at your moronic posts, please indulge me some more.

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                  • #69
                    Jesus Christ

                    Originally posted by weizer View Post
                    If they make the playoffs every year...Schiano didn't and got the shaft because players didn't respect him...totally different situation but of course you are reaching again. Where is the report that players don't respect Chip? Please I am already laughing my ass off at your moronic posts, please indulge me some more.
                    Thank God you're not running shit with this team. So what, if Shady says something about his contract next, you wanna cut him ? How about Peters ? Hell, Evan Mathis, too while we're at it. You can't just cut every player that pisses you off. Sit down like a man and try to MANAGE THE SITUATION. That's part of being an NFL coach. You don't think that Brady has pissed Belichick off at some point during their time together ? You can't just cut a player that pisses you off, especially if that player can help you win.
                    The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is - Winston Churchill

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Eagle In Ohio View Post
                      Thank God you're not running shit with this team. So what, if Shady says something about his contract next, you wanna cut him ? How about Peters ? Hell, Evan Mathis, too while we're at it. You can't just cut every player that pisses you off. Sit down like a man and try to MANAGE THE SITUATION. That's part of being an NFL coach. You don't think that Brady has pissed Belichick off at some point during their time together ? You can't just cut a player that pisses you off, especially if that player can help you win.
                      Except for Mathis, Jackson is comparable to none of the players you mentioned.

                      Shady - best RB in the league last year, the main cog in Chip's offsense and hasn't shown any problems about playing hard.

                      Peters - quite possibly a HOF LT who hasn't shown any problems and game back from injury and played quite well.

                      Tom Brady. Seriously?
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                      • #71
                        randy moss got released from new england because belicheat was tired of dealing of dealing with him.

                        it happens.

                        i don't know why they want to get rid of him...or even if they are actually doing it and they are just f'ing with everyone...but like you said, kell isn't at eugene anymore with kids...so he doesn't have to coddle anyone anymore either.
                        “I am going to literally sodomize you on the field of battle. I am going to have non-consensual sex with your face and your butt. Then I’m going after your wife and kid”

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                        • #72
                          Actually what got Schiano fired was having a losing record over two seasons and benching his QB then cutting him during the season. Kelly came in, sold his program to the vets and they made the playoffs. Yes, they are definitely a more dangerous team with Jackson on it--however, if you cast your mind back to last year, Jackson was the only one to complain about having to learn all 3 WR positions and Kelly had to have a talk with him.

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                          • #73
                            DeSean wasn't one of the best receivers in the league last year ?

                            Originally posted by TerpEagle View Post
                            Except for Mathis, Jackson is comparable to none of the players you mentioned.

                            Shady - best RB in the league last year, the main cog in Chip's offsense and hasn't shown any problems about playing hard.

                            Peters - quite possibly a HOF LT who hasn't shown any problems and game back from injury and played quite well.

                            Tom Brady. Seriously?
                            He wasn't one of the "main cogs" in Chips offense ? You're too busy looking for your next opportunity to give a smart ass answer. The point with Tom Brady is that you don't cut your best players simply because they piss you off, it's not comparing Jackson to Brady.
                            The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is - Winston Churchill

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Eagle In Ohio View Post
                              He wasn't one of the "main cogs" in Chips offense ? You're too busy looking for your next opportunity to give a smart ass answer. The point with Tom Brady is that you don't cut your best players simply because they piss you off, it's not comparing Jackson to Brady.
                              While I try not to miss an opportunity to give a smart ass answer, you're making ridiculous comparisons while trying to make your point and it's making it weaker in my opinion.

                              Jackson was important but Kelly's offense was set up by Shady and his willingness to run the ball. The Eagles were the highest rushing team in the NFL last year.

                              And let's get serious - Shady is far better and more important than Desean Jackson to the Eagles.

                              I get that you don't want Jackson gone and you don't think there's much reason to get rid of him. On the surface I don't see much, but Kelly showed me that he has a good plan for running the team - especially the offense and honestly I think Jackson's (and the rest of the players) success was a result of Kelly designing an offense to utilize his (their) talent.

                              Kelly doesn't strike me as the type of coach who would get rid of someone on a whim and if Jackson is not fully buying into the culture change the Eagles seem to be implementing (or some other unknown issue to the general public) I don't think his skill are irreplaceable - especially by someone like Kelly.
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                              • #75
                                I like Chip Kelly as a coach

                                Originally posted by TerpEagle View Post
                                While I try not to miss an opportunity to give a smart ass answer, you're making ridiculous comparisons while trying to make your point and it's making it weaker in my opinion.

                                Jackson was important but Kelly's offense was set up by Shady and his willingness to run the ball. The Eagles were the highest rushing team in the NFL last year.

                                And let's get serious - Shady is far better and more important than Desean Jackson to the Eagles.

                                I get that you don't want Jackson gone and you don't think there's much reason to get rid of him. On the surface I don't see much, but Kelly showed me that he has a good plan for running the team - especially the offense and honestly I think Jackson's (and the rest of the players) success was a result of Kelly designing an offense to utilize his (their) talent.

                                Kelly doesn't strike me as the type of coach who would get rid of someone on a whim and if Jackson is not fully buying into the culture change the Eagles seem to be implementing (or some other unknown issue to the general public) I don't think his skill are irreplaceable - especially by someone like Kelly.
                                and if it comes out that DeSean is committing some egregious act that is cut-worthy, then so be it. However, I'm not gonna just go along with the narrative that he can be easily replaced, because I don't think that he can be, and just because Chip has a division title under his belt, that doesn't mean that he isn't making a mistake with this.
                                The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is - Winston Churchill

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