if you are a draftee, you definitely dont want to come to the Eagles

[J_Cuz31]

Maniac, however, is trying to take incidents and make them larger while conflating them with Jackon's history of problems in the locker room.

Hold on.

You're the guy who claims Desean Jackson "has a history of bad press" while downplaying the actions of a guy, Riley Cooper, who REALLY has a history of bad press.

Riley Cooper hung out in college with known murderer, Aaron Hernandez, so he is just as much a gangster as Jackson.

Riley Cooper was cited for resisting arrest in college. Jackson has NEVER been arrested.

Riley Cooper came to his workplace and racially discriminated against people who worked there. Desean Jackson did not.


Desean Jackson, by contrast, is guilty of making the wrong hand signs.

It's pretty clear you're the guy taking incidents and making them larger here.

[Maniac]

There is direct evidence, a fight and attributed quotes, showing KKKooper was a locker room problem. There are unnamed sources claiming Jackson was.

For anti DJax rednecks, I think you could start with KKKooper's bros at the Chesney concert. Kelce obviously. I understand Chip was there. Not sure about Bobbie Bicknell.

[Eagle In Ohio]

I'm pretty sure

Hold on.

You're the guy who claims Desean Jackson "has a history of bad press" while downplaying the actions of a guy, Riley Cooper, who REALLY has a history of bad press.

Riley Cooper hung out in college with known murderer, Aaron Hernandez, so he is just as much a gangster as Jackson.

Riley Cooper was cited for resisting arrest in college. Jackson has NEVER been arrested.

Riley Cooper came to his workplace and racially discriminated against people who worked there. Desean Jackson did not.


Desean Jackson, by contrast, is guilty of making the wrong hand signs.

It's pretty clear you're the guy taking incidents and making them larger here.

that if Riley had known Hernendez was a murderer in college, the two wouldn't have been hanging out.

[TerpEagle]

Hold on.

You're the guy who claims Desean Jackson "has a history of bad press" while downplaying the actions of a guy, Riley Cooper, who REALLY has a history of bad press.

Riley Cooper hung out in college with known murderer, Aaron Hernandez, so he is just as much a gangster as Jackson.

Riley Cooper was cited for resisting arrest in college. Jackson has NEVER been arrested.

Riley Cooper came to his workplace and racially discriminated against people who worked there. Desean Jackson did not.


Desean Jackson, by contrast, is guilty of making the wrong hand signs.

It's pretty clear you're the guy taking incidents and making them larger here.

Desean Jackon has a history of causing problems on the field and in the locker room. He admitted to letting his contract affect his play. He was deactivated for his behavior in the locker room/meetings. It's been reported that he had issues with his position coach this year off the field requiring Avant to be a go-between and he had issues with being initially demoted.

Jackson's maturity issues have been discussed for years. To say otherwise is a bald-faced lie.

Nothing that I've seen has been said about Cooper as a problem as a teammate on the Eagles aside from backlash to his slur. There's no discussion of him being a problem in the locker room before the slur (most teammates that commented were shocked - no one seems that shocked about Jackson) and aside from hard feelings that other players felt and the scuffle with Williams there was no discussion of him being a problem after the incident. He apologized and went out without complaint to put up his best year without incident.

I've said from the start that I think the main issues with Jackson leaving were 1) Kelly valued his skills less than the fans and 2) Kelly didn't want to put up with any bullshit or players not buying in.

If you think that most of the people who don't say rally behind Jackson 100% think it's all about "gang signs" than you're selectively choosing what you want to see.

[J_Cuz31]

Nothing that I've seen has been said about Cooper as a problem as a teammate on the Eagles aside from backlash to his slur.

"backlash to his slur?"

Borderline racist wording like that doesn't help your argument.

I don't think Cary Williams or LeSean McCoy felt they were "backlashing" against Riley Cooper. I believe they were deeply insulted and felt they didn't want to return to work and see the guy.

You can collect all these relatively minor issues Desean Jackson's attitude posed and pile them into a mound and it WILL NEVER compare to Cooper singular transgression.

Sorry dude, that's just the way it is and the fact that Jackson caused more than one incident is pretty much irrelevant in comparison.

Also, due to the racist nature of Cooper's transgression, I don't think anyone is going out on a limb when they claim Cooper will always pose some sort of problem as a teammate.

[TerpEagle]

There is direct evidence, a fight and attributed quotes, showing KKKooper was a locker room problem. There are unnamed sources claiming Jackson was.

For anti DJax rednecks, I think you could start with KKKooper's bros at the Chesney concert. Kelce obviously. I understand Chip was there. Not sure about Bobbie Bicknell.

There was a fight during training camp with one teammate who has a history of starting and trying to start fights. You said multiple teammates wanted and then actually did fight him. That's incorrect even if it sounds better.

And Kenny Chesney fans don't like Desean Jackson. That's your grand hypothesis backed by nothing?

Even though Cooper actually, publicly, said this:

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"He’s awesome. I’m in the same room as him every single day," Cooper said. "We’re both wideouts. So I’m with him every day, all day, meeting rooms, on the field. He’s a great player and he’s a good friend of mine. So I want him to stay.

"I felt like he did a great job for us. You all saw him on the field. He put up career numbers and he worked hard in practice, and that’s a big thing for Chip and everyone. You’ve gotta work hard in practice for it to carry over to the game. It’s all about preparation and things like that. And he did a good job of that last year. I’m extremely proud of him. In any case, whatever happens to DeSean, it’s supposed to happen. But I don’t know what it’s gonna be."
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Kelce publicly said:

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We just made an extremely unpopular decision, but I couldn't be more excited and happy with where this organization is going!! #FlyEaglesFly

Good luck with whatever team you end up with DeseanJackson10!
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So he said that fans shouldn't worry about the Eagles and he wished Jackson luck.

Fucking backstabbers to say shit like that in public.

[TerpEagle]

"backlash to his slur?"

Borderline racist wording like that doesn't help your argument.

I don't think Cary Williams or LeSean McCoy felt they were "backlashing" against Riley Cooper. I believe they were deeply insulted and felt they didn't want to return to work and see the guy.

You can collect all these relatively minor issues Desean Jackson's attitude posed and pile them into a mound and it WILL NEVER compare to Cooper singular transgression.

Sorry dude, that's just the way it is and the fact that Jackson caused more than one incident is pretty much irrelevant in comparison.

Borderline racist wording huh? Your favorite move is to go into attack mode on my personally. Riley Cooper yelled a racial slur in public. There was backlash - his teammates and the public were understandably upset by it. After that season started there were no reported problems with Cooper like there were no reported problems with him before it.

There have been reported problems with Jackson for years.

[Greenstealth]

Borderline racist wording huh? Your favorite move is to go into attack mode on my personally. Riley Cooper yelled a racial slur in public. There was backlash - his teammates and the public were understandably upset by it. After that season started there were no reported problems with Cooper like there were no reported problems with him before it.

There have been reported problems with Jackson for years.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/r...-exchange.html

El wrongo again

[TerpEagle]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/r...-exchange.html

El wrongo again

Good find. We can give as much merit to that as we do to Jackson arguing with his coach on the sideline.

[TerpEagle]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/r...-exchange.html

El wrongo again

http://www.igglephans.com/iggboard/showthread.php?t=284690

There's also a question of who the fight was actually between according to the all-knowing source that is Igglephans.

[Greenstealth]

Haha I came across it when I was looking for mccoys training camp comments. I don't remember it happening just like I didn't remember Bicknell and cripskin. I don't have a dog in this fight, and I really don't care, I just don't think the Cooper thing went over smooth and bubbly. In the end Chip is the boss, and everyone has to roll with what he decides. I guess Cooper isn't a big enough distraction.

[TerpEagle]

Haha I came across it when I was looking for mccoys training camp comments. I don't remember it happening just like I didn't remember Bicknell and cripskin. I don't have a dog in this fight, and I really don't care, I just don't think the Cooper thing went over smooth and bubbly. In the end Chip is the boss, and everyone has to roll with what he decides. I guess Cooper isn't a big enough distraction.

I'm not trying to downplay what Cooper did. It caused a distraction. I just think the ongoing distraction of Jackson combined with his salary and value to the offense that Kelly wants to run is what played a role.

If Cooper really was a major distraction I don't think he'd have gotten a new contract. Signing him wasn't a PR move and either was releasing Jackson.

[Greenstealth]

I'm not trying to downplay what Cooper did. It caused a distraction. I just think the ongoing distraction of Jackson combined with his salary and value to the offense that Kelly wants to run is what played a role.

If Cooper really was a major distraction I don't think he'd have gotten a new contract. Signing him wasn't a PR move and either was releasing Jackson.

I don't think either of them were major distractions. I don't think the Eagles wanted to pay cripskin his money or give cripskin another big signing bonus. They were having trouble finding a trade partner because of his 10.75m salary. The panicked at first chance and dumped him for nothing. Every locker room has 53 guys in it and there are going to be assholes, divas etc.

[3rd & Inches]

Making my list and checking it twice!!

You just made the list pal

Your name is on it in all caps with a star next to it. Your ass is grass and I'm bringing the mower my friend.

[J_Cuz31]

If Kelce is a redneck then I guess Jackson is a thug, right?

But if Cary Williams is insulted by what Riley Cooper said any response by him is an unwarranted and excessive "backlash" by player with a "history of starting fights."

I know you think it's personal but the undercurrent of racism in your posts is pretty pervasive.