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Originally posted by T.D-Bag View Post
TD, care to explain this one to me? This shit pisses me off!
'This is our heaven': Colorado couple fights to save land from eminent domain
By Faith Mangan, Alicia Acuna
Published April 08, 2014FoxNews.com
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BRECKENRIDGE, Colo. – "They're spending us to death," said landowner Andy Barrie.
He is not talking about property taxes, inflation or even the cost of skiing in glitzy ski country. Rather, he's talking about the legal fight he and his wife have been waging to save their pristine piece of mountain property -- with breathtaking views of Colorado's high country -- from being taken over by the county through eminent domain.
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Their battle is a unique test of private property rights. Unlike in countless other cases, where local governments have used those powers to seize land to make way for a road or some economic development project, Colorado's Summit County is using eminent domain to go after the Barries' land simply because officials want the open space.
It's a peaceful plot of land the Barries don't want to part with.
"Everyone has their special place where they really like to go, and when we came up here the first time we said this is our heaven, this is a special place," Andy Barrie explained.
Two years ago, Andy and Ceil Barrie bought two pieces of land: a house in an established subdivision, and another piece of property at a higher elevation, accessible by an old mining road.
The isolated parcel is surrounded by 2.2 million acres of White River National Forest, and is essentially an island of private property. It includes an old mining cabin, an outhouse and a shuttered gold mine. The area is popular with hikers.
The couple's trouble started when the U.S. Forest Service took them to task for using a utility vehicle to drive from their main residence to their cabin. They say they never went off-road, and petitioned for the path to be declared a county road.
The county, though, responded by trying to buy the Barries' higher-elevation property in order to protect and preserve it as open space. The Barries, who never had any plans to develop it, did not want to sell.
That's when the county pulled their trump card.
Unbeknownst to the Barries, the previous owner had remodeled the cabin without permits. So Summit County commissioners voted to condemn the property for wiring and plumbing (even though the cabin has none) and filed for eminent domain.
"I understand that we are all trying to save these beautiful mountains and make them accessible to everyone, but you know that property has been sitting there since President Garfield signed our land patent, and we're not doing anything bad there," Ceil Barrie said.
Last week, the two sides participated in required, formal mediation with a judge. Summit County, which refused interview requests, released a statement saying: "Both parties engaged in productive negotiations in pursuit of a voluntary settlement regarding the purchase. ... We are optimistic that a resolution will be reached within a matter of weeks, if not days."
The Barries' hopes are dimming. Asked if recent mediation pointed to a way for the Barries to keep the land in the family name and avoid eminent domain, Andy Barrie responded flatly, "No, they're taking it."
Further, they're concerned that should Summit County seize control of their 10-acre tract, the county will simply trade the property with the U.S. Forest Service for valuable land closer to town.
"They collude together to basically screw up their citizens. ... Sooner or later, we're going to run out of money, but we wanted to fight the good fight and let people know our story and what their government is up to," Andy Barrie said.
Fox News checked with the White River National Forest division of the U.S. Forest Service about the Barries' case. Spokesman Bill Kight said via email: "In the case of this or any on-going legal matter (including eminent domain petitions) with any federal, state, county or local government the Forest Service will not be issuing any statement during such legal proceedings."
The Barries have spent more than $75,000 to date. The mediation judge recently advised them the financial figure could double in the coming months.
"I even promised my daughter she could get married up here, and now all that's gone," Andy Barrie said.Last edited by Eagle Road; 04-15-2014, 12:35 PM.
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Originally posted by Irish George View Postdo really think anybody read that shit?
Gotcha, Comrade. Now it all makes sense. LOLLast edited by Eagle Road; 04-15-2014, 12:49 PM.
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Originally posted by Eagle Road View PostGotcha, Comrade. Now it all makes sense. LOL
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Originally posted by T.D-Bag View PostIt is an unfortunate situation, outside of any of the construction code violations which should be adhered to for safety, it sounds like they are getting a raw deal. How this relates to a multi-millionaire freeloader who paid the BLM fees when Ron Reagan first signed them into law by executive order in 1986 but has for 20 years stolen from the govt ( unlike other ranchers who paid). How is freeloading now a RW rallying cry?
Unbeknownst to the Barries, the previous owner had remodeled the cabin without permits. So Summit County commissioners voted to condemn the property for wiring and plumbing (even though the cabin has none) and filed for eminent domain.
How do you have a violation for wiring and plumbing, WHEN THERE IS NONE? Safety, Pffft, your kidding, right?
As far as how it compares, it's simple, someone, somewhere in gov. management makes a decision and can and does use the full force and weight of the Federal Gov. to their advantage.
Is Cliven Bundy right or wrong? I really have no idea, but should this be settled in a court of law, or should some paramilitary government agency send in the storm troopers?
In a lot of these cases it has NOTHING to do with anything other than a government individual wanting some gain for himself or someone he/she is associated with.
The problem with all of this is the person from the gov. that made this decision in the first place has no skin in the game, nothing to lose, everything to gain, that is what emboldens them and people like them to take what they want.
It happens more than you think, it happen to me in 1993, just hope some day you don't get the mail and are informed that someone from somewhere decided that they want what you have, and there is damn little you can do about it.
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Originally posted by T.D-Bag View PostIt was settled in a court of law twice, Bundy lost.
Then arrest Bundy and put him in jail for non compliance with a court ordered action, why has that not been done?
And what of the people in Colorado? Believe me when I say, it all seems so simple, until it is you going though it.
My deal cost me over 300,000 dollars, and was the main reason I moved to Kansas. But that is another story.
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