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    "Is she one of those black people that stink?"

    http://news.yahoo.com/killed-sterlin...-politics.html
    Last edited by Loki; 05-14-2014, 03:27 PM.
    John Erlichman, one of President Richard Nixon's closest aides, has admitted America's "War on Drugs" was a hoax designed to vilify and disrupt "the antiwar left and black people" when it was launched in 1971.

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    The reality is the league can not force him to sell

    although I think the guy is total scum.

    I have heard many points of View on this case from people in their 30's 50's and 80's...the older generation seems to feel his privacy was compromised,,,and what's said in the privacy of their own home is their Business.. Of course these were older Rich type folks..The NBA is in a shit storm thats far from Over..this guy has the money to hold onto the team till he dies..
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    • #3
      Originally posted by TRENT View Post
      although I think the guy is total scum.

      I have heard many points of View on this case from people in their 30's 50's and 80's...the older generation seems to feel his privacy was compromised,,,and what's said in the privacy of their own home is their Business.. Of course these were older Rich type folks..The NBA is in a shit storm thats far from Over..this guy has the money to hold onto the team till he dies..
      Well, at this point he 1) admitted that he said those things on the tape and 2) has continued to say more - very publicly.

      It's also allowed for his history of racism (housing discrimination) to be reexamined after being swept under the rug by the NBA in previous years. That's where he's really acted like a scumbag along with his estranged wife.

      It far exceeds the public relations snafu of not wanting his friends to think his mistress is banging black guys.
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      • #4
        I do think he's a grade-A asshole, and maybe ethically, he does deserve to lose his team. However, I question whether there is any legal precedent for something like this. I also think it would be batshit insane for players to boycott the NBA if the team stays in the Sterling family. That would be like if the Eagles had taken this past year off because Cooper stayed on the team.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JDuggernaut View Post
          I do think he's a grade-A asshole, and maybe ethically, he does deserve to lose his team. However, I question whether there is any legal precedent for something like this. I also think it would be batshit insane for players to boycott the NBA if the team stays in the Sterling family. That would be like if the Eagles had taken this past year off because Cooper stayed on the team.
          Can't the NBA just refuse to schedule games involving the Clippers? For this year, refusing to play might result in a forfeit, but I see no reason why the NBA needs to schedule Clippers games going forward unless things change.

          If the Clippers can't play other NBA teams than effectively they DO NOT EXIST as an NBA team. Thank you Kelly Green!

          Sterling would still own his team but they would be restricted to teams out of the NBA like the Globetrotters and the Generals. But I don't think either of those teams would be interested in playing his squad.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by IronEagle View Post
            Can't the NBA just refuse to schedule games involving the Clippers? For this year, refusing to play might result in a forfeit, but I see no reason why the NBA needs to schedule Clippers games going forward unless things change.

            If the Clippers can't play other NBA teams than effectively they DO NOT EXIST as an NBA team. Thank you Kelly Green!

            Sterling would still own his team but they would be restricted to teams out of the NBA like the Globetrotters and the Generals. But I don't think either of those teams would be interested in playing his squad.
            That would be a huge disservice to Clippers players and fans though. If they cancelled a team's schedule, they would effectively kill the team moving forward. Plus I'm not even sure if that is within their power. They could vote to contract the team, but then it would be gone forever and you just lost another foothold in the nation's second largest market.

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            • #7
              Have there even been any offers to buy the team? I am talking real offers in writing?

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              • #8
                Why not? Baseball got rid of Marge Schott.
                John Erlichman, one of President Richard Nixon's closest aides, has admitted America's "War on Drugs" was a hoax designed to vilify and disrupt "the antiwar left and black people" when it was launched in 1971.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
                  Have there even been any offers to buy the team? I am talking real offers in writing?
                  I don't think so, but then again, they technically still have an owner that isn't trying to sell, so it's very early in the process

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                  • #10
                    Please refresh my memory,,,why did she lose her team?

                    Originally posted by Loki View Post
                    Why not? Baseball got rid of Marge Schott.
                    i'm not a basebore fan.. I remember something about this when it happened..

                    there is no legal precedence in a case like this,,although prejudice statements are condemned they are not Illegal..
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TRENT View Post
                      i'm not a basebore fan.. I remember something about this when it happened..

                      there is no legal precedence in a case like this,,although prejudice statements are condemned they are not Illegal..




                      This is from the Wa-Po, looks like she sold out on her own accord?






                      When it comes to a lasting position as owner of a professional sports franchise, no amount of money or charisma can outweigh public opinion.
                      As Marge Schott found out in the 1990s.
                      Schott was enormously popular, but was forced out as owner of the Cincinnati Reds after making a number of comments about blacks, Jews, gays and Adolf Hitler. She was suspended in 1993 and 1996, then sold the team in 1999 after reports that she had falsified car sales in the names of Reds employees and hid the vehicles at her house in an effort to show General Motors that her dealership had met a sales quota.
                      “It’s ugly, it’s ignorant, it’s tragic,” Fay Vincent, baseball’s commissioner from 1989 to 1992, told ESPN. “I thought she was one of the most tragic figures I’ve encountered in a long life.”
                      In the 1990s, it was easier for her to get a pass. She was a constant sight, chain-smoking, signing autographs and bringing her dog Schottzie to the ballpark. Because of that popularity and at a time when talk of her comments barely rippled beyond Cincinnati, there were years of tolerance for Schott, who became majority owner of the team in 1984.
                      “She was drunk,” Vincent said. “The tragedy is that nobody could deal with that. How could I say to her, ‘Marge, you’re just drinking too much’? Looking back on my time in baseball, there were probably seven or eight really ferocious alcoholics, and there wasn’t much to be done. An alcoholic in a position where he owns or she owns a team, it’s very hard for the others. I talked to other owners about Marge. They all knew she was dangerous, and after I left baseball is when it really blew up. I think baseball did the right thing. It’s really difficult to tell an owner you have to sell the team, but if ever there was a candidate, she was it.”
                      Finally, baseball acted and she sold all but one share of the team. The Cincinnati Enquirer’s Paul Daugherty, who covered Schott, wrote this weekend of Schott: “Marge was recklessly clueless, and didn’t give a damn if you knew it. Marge didn’t limit her ugliness to blacks. She spread it like buckshot. Schott offended everyone from scouts to Jews, gays to blacks. The litany of her indiscretions was comprehensive and impressive.”

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by IronEagle View Post
                        Can't the NBA just refuse to schedule games involving the Clippers? For this year, refusing to play might result in a forfeit, but I see no reason why the NBA needs to schedule Clippers games going forward unless things change.

                        If the Clippers can't play other NBA teams than effectively they DO NOT EXIST as an NBA team. Thank you Kelly Green!

                        Sterling would still own his team but they would be restricted to teams out of the NBA like the Globetrotters and the Generals. But I don't think either of those teams would be interested in playing his squad.
                        It's a franchise like a McDonalds - just much more exclusive. If the NBA rescinds the rights of Sterling to use their logos, marketing, officials, TV exposure, etc. then what does he have? It would make it in his best interest to sell because otherwise all he has is ownership of the franchise but no access to profit.

                        I'm sure it's much more complicated than that though.
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                        • #13
                          Thanks,, that is very Involved and lengthy

                          and she had many issues. its quite diff than what going on here thats for sure..I would just sell the Team at 80,,,,wtf should he care. He's done.
                          Last edited by TRENT; 05-15-2014, 10:50 AM.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TRENT View Post
                            and she had many issues. its quite diff than what going on here thats for sure..I would just sell the Team at 80,,,,wtf should he care. He's done.


                            Although I agree that he should sell the question becomes, at what price? The team at this point could be looked upon as "damaged goods" so I'm sure that there is a HUGE difference between PRE-recorded value of the team, and POST-recorded value of the team.


                            That is why I asked if any REAL offers had been made, if the people that are truly offended by what he said, the Oprah's, Johnson's and Lebron's of the world should have no problem putting a number on paper of reasonable value, it's makes the whole issue go away, quickly!


                            You would be left with an old man that is a racist and may or may not have some mental issues, and you would have some people that are making a positive statement by purchasing the team.


                            Unless of course the whole reason for the unauthorized tape and release was to de-value the team from the start?

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                            • #15
                              he built the team up,,,think they are worth more now

                              than they have ever been...don't see how this should drive down the price of a Professional sports team.
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