I don't get the Embiid backlash

[J_Cuz31]

I never referred to it as the 'Big 3'. I saw it as the 'Big 2'. Actually, I saw it as 'Winless for Wiggins'. Regardless, they ended up with a player at #3 with major health concerns instead of the player they really coveted. They had a plan and they didn't execute. I waited it out hoping for a draft day miracle but it didn't happen. Good GMs execute their plans. This one didn't. If the reports are true, he didn't get the player he really wanted. That's bad form when you spent the entire season trying to sell your fan base on a 'wait-and-see'. We waited, they blew it. This team still can't shoot. I'm pretty sure that's important in basketball. It's not all about defense. Now, it's wait until 2017. I've got to hand it to him, this drawn out process will keep him in town longer than he should be. Let's hope they got different doctors to review the x-rays this year.

Embid is a better basketball player and prospect for than wiggins. The sixers really might have dodged a bullet by not getting that guy. He will never be the centerpiece of a championship team. He wont even be scotty pippen. Anyone who looks at this draft rationally knows there was not that much of a gap between the best prospect and the sixth best prospect. What should really be distressing to you about hinkie is how enamored he was with wiggins in tbe first place.

[Sect 236]

We'll never truly know who Hinkie wanted or not. Reports before the draft were that he wanted Wiggins and he offered all the picks and Thad, then reports after the draft were that they never even made an offer for #1.

It's a good strategy by Cleveland to leak a huge offer from a team to try and entice other teams to come in and offer even more. Maybe the Sixers offered it, maybe they didn't.

No point in crying over spilt milk now. We got the previously #1 ranked prospect at 3. I wanted Wiggins just because I didn't want a logjam in the paint, but Embiid isn't half bad either. If his injuries aren't recurring, it's a steal. If they are, then we'll expect it because we're Philly fans.

[royal]

Little disappointed to find out your Avatar won't be the official secondary logo. think team could use a change.

[AnnapolisEagle]

Who did you want to take at 3? An Australian who nobody has seen play live and who hasn't played competively in a year? Noah Vonleh? Nick Gordon? You really think any of those guys will be NBA superstars? Embiid is the worth the risk if you're looking to build a championship caliber team. He was going to go number 1 before the injury. I trust the Sixers know more about his medical condition than any of us. Maybe it's blind faith, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I wasn't crazy about the Saric selection but at that point Stauskas and Randle were already gone. Guys like McDermott and Gary Harris aren't going to make a difference ever, maybe in a few years Saric will. How many years did Sixers fans bitch about being in NBA purgatory? I have no problem with being terrible (again). Did you prefer the Billy King/Stefanski approach of taking guys with the highest floor instead of the highest ceiling?

I think if Embiid hadn't gotten hurt and Wiggins had fallen to the Sixers, they would've taken someone who is more immediately helpful at 10. Or maybe traded Thad and the No. 10 to move up, or swap Thad and other assets for another first-rounder.

But as it is, Embiid isn't going to play next year. So I think, for Hinkie, that takes off the urgency of getting another guy to play right away. And his move got them back the first they lost in the Bynum fiasco.

-AE

[J_Cuz31]

I think if Embiid hadn't gotten hurt and Wiggins had fallen to the Sixers, they would've taken someone who is more immediately helpful at 10. Or maybe traded Thad and the No. 10 to move up, or swap Thad and other assets for another first-rounder.

-AE

I dunno. It looks like they might have been banking on Stauskas being there at ten and when he went at eight they hedged with the Croatian. So they hedged both top ten picks, just like they did last year. When a team drafts so passively, and seems so obsessed with getting unproven prospects, you gotta wonder about its talent evaluators.

hinkie looks like a guy with a good plan who might not know what a good basketball player looks like.

[AnnapolisEagle]

I dunno. It looks like they might have been banking on Stauskas being there at ten and when he went at eight they hedged with the Croatian. So they hedged both top ten picks, just like they did last year. When a team drafts so passively, and seems so obsessed with getting unproven prospects, you gotta wonder about its talent evaluators.

hinkie looks like a guy with a good plan who might not know what a good basketball player looks like.

Eh, I think the only grounds it's worthwhile to criticize him on is that since any pick is a crapshoot, you don't want to be stuck paying a guy for a year just to wait around to see if he's any good.

Outside of LeBron and maybe Duncan there isn't anyone in recent memory that was a lock to be a star. Carmelo, Durant and Anthony Davis all had flaws. Kobe went 8th. Stauskas could turn out to be the best player in this draft.

The consensus was that Embiid was the top pick after all his workouts. He apparently blew all the scouts away.

If you think the injuries aren't a long-term problem, or maybe have only a 20% chance to be a long-term problem, you take him if you think he's the best guy there.

They'll run out MCW, Thad, Noel and two other guys this year. Next year it'll be MCW, Noel, Embiid plus maybe Thad and another lottery pick. To me, that beats the other much-discussed option of pairing Exum with MCW and adding McDermott.

Hell, it could be they tried to move MCW so they could take Exum and couldn't get good value.

Hinkie is rolling the dice, yes. But stars win titles. If you think Embiid is one of them, it's worth the risk.

[iowaigglefan]

They did a great job of getting their first-rounder back in 2017. They know they're going to need it.

All I know is they had a plan in the beginning of the season and they didn't execute. I don't want to hear the lottery is luck. The Bucks had the worst record in the NBA and they were trying. The Sixers held on to players and tanked too late. Bad form. There is zero chance this was the plan before the season. Zero.

On THIS subject you are a MORON!

[iowaigglefan]

[QUOTE=J_Cuz31;1766459]I dunno. It looks like they might have been banking on Stauskas being there at ten and when he went at eight they hedged with the Croatian. So they hedged both top ten picks, just like they did last year. When a team drafts so passively, and seems so obsessed with getting unproven prospects, you gotta wonder about its talent evaluators.

hinkie looks like a guy with a good plan who might not know what a good basketball player looks like.[/QUOTE


Saric is not unproven - this works perfectly - He is here in three yrs - Embiid has a year to get ready - Sixers will tank again next season -- We are all looking for the fun to begin in 2017. Besides the top pick they will get next season and they will be adding a couple of big time Free with life on their career. Takes time to build a team that will dominate for a half of a decade or more.

BE PATIENT -- GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT.

[Brandonn]

[QUOTE=iowaigglefan;1766479]

I dunno. It looks like they might have been banking on Stauskas being there at ten and when he went at eight they hedged with the Croatian. So they hedged both top ten picks, just like they did last year. When a team drafts so passively, and seems so obsessed with getting unproven prospects, you gotta wonder about its talent evaluators.

hinkie looks like a guy with a good plan who might not know what a good basketball player looks like.[/QUOTE


Saric is not unproven - this works perfectly - He is here in three yrs - Embiid has a year to get ready - Sixers will tank again next season -- We are all looking for the fun to begin in 2017. Besides the top pick they will get next season and they will be adding a couple of big time Free with life on their career. Takes time to build a team that will dominate for a half of a decade or more.

BE PATIENT -- GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT.

Honestly, they look to be tanking the next two seasons. I would not be surprised if after having the lowest attendance in the league the next two years the team is moved.

And somehow those Phily fans will get blamed for the team moving when the team has not even attempted to be competitive in half a decade.

[slag]

Nobody is moving the NBA out of fucking Philadelphia.

[Ground_Meat]

Nobody is moving the NBA out of fucking Philadelphia.

This.

[Sect 236]

You should be suspended from posting like Luis Suarez after making an asinine statement like the NBA will move the team. Seriously, biting a guy on the pitch for the third time in your career is smarter than suggesting the NBA will take a franchise away from Philly due to attendance low for a couple seasons.

[Brandonn]

Nobody is moving the NBA out of fucking Philadelphia.

Ask Seattle and New Jersey about that.

[Sect 236]

Ask Seattle and New Jersey about that.

Yup, Newark and Seattle have pretty much the same storied basketball history at all levels that Philly does. The NBA is just jumping at the chance to move a team from the 5th largest city in America.

What you said was dumb and will always be dumb. Don't try to defend it.

[slag]

I wouldn't want to move from a fucking swamp with no parking to New York City, in an up and coming area where a gagzillionaire real estate developer is spending a bajillion dollars on urban renewal.