HA HA, I just can't stop saying(c).........

[TerpEagle]

It's not ridiculous at all. It's what leaders are supposed to do - lead. Obama blames and divides. And lies - now that's great way to solicit compromise with the opposition party. Funny how you parrot the same lie that the repubs "not to compromise on anything"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-serious-idea/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...f-legislation/

Everyone always wants the other side to compromise. And as publicly stated by numerous GOP candidates/voices/representatives that means do what they want.

[Eagle In Ohio]

I keep hearing from those on the right that Obama is dividing this country

It's not ridiculous at all. It's what leaders are supposed to do - lead. Obama blames and divides. And lies - now that's great way to solicit compromise with the opposition party. Funny how you parrot the same lie that the repubs "not to compromise on anything"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-serious-idea/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...f-legislation/

In what way is he doing that ? Is he hanging HIMSELF in effigy ? Is he having his people go out in the towns across America that he visits, and having them hang nooses ? Is he himself trying to make people afraid by calling himself Barack Hussein Obama ? Is he going around himself proclaiming that he's a Muslim, and posting pictures of himself giving a speech in front of what is supposed to be a "Muslim prayer curtain" even though it's not ? Is he doing all of that, or is it the tea party and republicans ? How exactly is Barack Obama the one who's causing division ?

[Riccardo]

And Obama

Right from day one

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17862.html

[TerpEagle]

But I thought corporations aren't people? Bwaaaaa!!

http://www.realclearmarkets.com/arti...ss_100768.html

Oh, do you live in the country where money doesn't influence elections and funding for certain politicians doesn't imply a desire to see them in power?

You don't need to show me an article to say that Democrats receive money from big business. SE was complaining that the freeloaders won't vote Republican and based on the pretty well known notion that elections are fueled by money as well as votes, plenty of companies that take tax money want Republicans in power.

[TerpEagle]

Right from day one

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17862.html

Yet he still compromised on the taxes.

[Riccardo]

The opinion of two democrats

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...91553798363586

[TerpEagle]

In what way is he doing that ? Is he hanging HIMSELF in effigy ? Is he having his people go out in the towns across America that he visits, and having them hang nooses ? Is he himself trying to make people afraid by calling himself Barack Hussein Obama ? Is he going around himself proclaiming that he's a Muslim, and posting pictures of himself giving a speech in front of what is supposed to be a "Muslim prayer curtain" even though it's not ? Is he doing all of that, or is it the tea party and republicans ? How exactly is Barack Obama the one who's causing division ?

Stop playing the race card. It's never been about race with Obama. Liberals, the REAL racists, just bring up race because they're racist and only racist people bring up race.

[TerpEagle]

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...91553798363586

Hahahaha. Your Democrats are Fox News Insiders who have held anti-Democrat views for most if not all of Obama's term.

Any other News Corp sources?

[Riccardo]

Ah yes, if you work for fox news you can't be a democrat

Just like Bob Beckel and Juan Williams? Come on, say what you really want to say - those guys are just racist! Hilarious

[Eagle In Ohio]

That's the OPINION of two Democrats

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...91553798363586

I would argue that you could find just as many people who would agree with the same things these two Democrats oppose.

[TerpEagle]

Just like Bob Beckel and Juan Williams? Come on, say what you really want to say - those guys are just racist! Hilarious

Democrats and liberals that work for Fox News are typically caricatures or foils exist for the majority opinion held by conservatives to rail against. There is a reason that the term Fox News Republican exists.

Regardless, the two authors that you linked have been anti-Obama and generally anti-Democratic party since before Obama was elected or early in his first term.

I don't even know the point you're trying to make. There are native Americans that think the term Redskins is ok. Well then, I guess the topic should be dropped, right? You quoted an article from a newspaper with well-known bias, written by contributors to a news station with well-known bias, both of which are owned by a company that is the world leader in conservative biased news.

And you expect that your point and that article would mean anything other than to those that already agree with the concept that Obama sucks?

Bloomberg and Crist supported Obama. I guess that means he's great then, right! They're Republicans so at the very least it cancels out your article.

[Riccardo]

Well done

So instead of arguing with the points clearly and concisely laid out by these two democrats, your only response is try to discredit them via association. The point isn't that Obama "sucks", it's that he's been divisive. And you've contributed absolutely nothing to counter the assertion. Gee, right out of the Obama-Nixon playbook, what a surprise!

[Riccardo]

That's what I said

And they lay out a pretty good case IMO.

Now I'm sure someone like terp will say this poll means only that all republicans are racist this has nothing to do with Obama's policies...

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...er-gallup-says

[TerpEagle]

So instead of arguing with the points clearly and concisely laid out by these two democrats, your only response is try to discredit them via association. The point isn't that Obama "sucks", it's that he's been divisive. And you've contributed absolutely nothing to counter the assertion. Gee, right out of the Obama-Nixon playbook, what a surprise!

I've already pointed out that Republicans have been obstructionist with the ideal that compromise means doing what they want. I've also pointed out that Obama has compromised on certain items but that he shouldn't be expected to bend to the will of 1/2 of Congress on everything they don't like.

Furthermore it's incredibly laughable that Obama is blamed on being divisive on things such as race. The only way Obama has been divisive due to race is that fact that he was black when he was elected. So yes, from that standpoint, he's been divisive from the start. If only he was white then there would be no division over him because of his race.

Oh I know, it's not about race. The TEA Party popped up because they finally got sick of the way the GOP rang things when a black Democrat got elected. And yeah, Fox News was just doing due diligence by referring to Hussein every time Obama's name was on the screen. It must have just been a programming change based on issues unrelated to Obama.

Also, it's Obama's fault that conservatives, from the start, said that their goal was for him to fail. I mean, if he had just failed like they wanted rather than get re-elected imagine how much less divisive it would all be.

And it's his fault that he nominated people he felt were qualified for government appointments that weren't the same people already in place. Had he just kept Bush's appointees then Congress couldn't have held up any appointments and things would have gone smoothly and imagine the lack of resulting division.

And it's his fault he didn't just provide his birth certificate to the public from day one. It's un-required and only idiots wanted to see it but if he had just bent to their underlying racist motives there would so much less division.

Pretty much, it's all Obama's fault. It's not a meme for conservative, it's the truth in their heart of hearts. Aside from all the division above, if his policy doesn't fit what the GOP wants - he's divisive. It's a bullshit argument. He's been faced with extreme opposition from half of the country he leads before he even started.

Maybe that's politics in general nowadays and Obama isn't perfect. In fact, many progressives feel that he's given too much to the other side and in fact is GWB-lite. But you're blatantly ignoring the fact that the tactic to defeat Obama since 2008 has been division. This isn't just some assumption made by liberals or Democrats, it's a publicly stated philosophy.

So yeah, your article sucks and it's ridiculous to hold up the people that wrote it as some sort of "even his own guys think he sucks" premise.

[Eagle In Ohio]

The way I see it

[QUOTE=Riccardo;1772387]And they lay out a pretty good case IMO.

Now I'm sure someone like terp will say this poll means only that all republicans are racist this has nothing to do with Obama's policies...

[url]http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/01/23/obama-on-track-to-be-most-polarizing-president-ever-gallup-says[/

If Obama was a republican and had the same policies and platform, the same people who so vehemently oppose him, would be his biggest cheerleaders because he's their guy. It works the same with the Democrats as well. Just vote both parties out of Washington, and let's try something new.