Let me see if I understand this

[Pete]

Banner left his childhood friend Lurie to explore other opportunities, including potential NFL team ownership.

Roseman had taken on an increased role in GM-type duties before Banner's departure.

Roseman became the GM (He had some other title before), but Lurie never replaced Banner's position of Executive VP or some shit.

Smolenski was hired as President.

Gamble was hired as VP of Player Personnel (I assume he had college and pro player duties) and reported directly to Roseman:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ayer-personnel

Kelly has made no secret that he knew Gamble, liked the guy, and his approach to football.

There have been some questionable personnel calls in the past two years, including (in no particular order):

Williams and Fletcher at CB, Allen at S
Oregon-heavy (and PAC-12-heavy) drafting, especially the Huff and Hart picks(?!)
Jackson's release
Cooper's contract
Mucus Smith (and the surrounding clusterfuck at the #22 pick)

Roseman fired Gamble (who was his direct report). Probably a dick move, especially with the reports of Gamble being escorted out of NovaCare. But if Howie thinks Gamble was either the weak link in the personnel calls or some kind of threat to Howie's power structure...

So, now all of a sudden, Chip Kelly is going to take his ball and go home? Or is Roseman going to fire him? I can't figure out which scenario is more preposterous. I imagine Kelly had a pretty clear picture where this was headed when he made his comments Monday.

I know-SUSP

[Riccardo]

That's what Antsworth thinks

So, now all of a sudden, Chip Kelly is going to take his ball and go home? Or is Roseman going to fire him? I can't figure out which scenario is more preposterous. I imagine Kelly had a pretty clear picture where this was headed when he made his comments Monday.

I know-SUSP

Ridiculous, isn't it?

[bobbyuk]

You need to read the articles in NJ.com as I said last night. There's a lot of things coming out right now that weren't reported when Kelly was hired. Like how some of the Eagles top candidates--including Kelly--were advised not to take the job because of Roseman. And as Eckel reported last night, Gamble wasn't Roseman's hire--he was Kelly's. There's an intense dislike of Roseman in the Eagles scouting department it's being reported. You never know what could happen.

[Pete]

Bobby, please

You need to read the articles in NJ.com as I said last night. There's a lot of things coming out right now that weren't reported when Kelly was hired. Like how some of the Eagles top candidates--including Kelly--were advised not to take the job because of Roseman. And as Eckel reported last night, Gamble wasn't Roseman's hire--he was Kelly's. There's an intense dislike of Roseman in the Eagles scouting department it's being reported. You never know what could happen.

I've read all the articles. I also read that after Reid was shitcanned, the word on the street was Roseman was in over his head, and that potential coaches should beware. That is no secret.

http://articles.philly.com/2013-01-1...-jeffrey-lurie

So what I hear you telling me is that Chip Kelly *hired* Gamble? Absolutely not. Did he suggest to Lurie and/or Roseman that Gamble would be a good hire? I'm sure. And I am also sure that scouts (many of whom played the game for years) resent the fact that a pencil-necked geek like Roseman who never played the game is their boss.

At this point in the off-season, McLane, Bowen, Eckel, etc. want your clicks desperately. I'll certainly eat my slice of humble pie willingly if Kelly ends up leaving over this, but this is part of football. Not a part that I think makes good sense from an Xs and Os standpoint, but a part of the game nonetheless.

[slag]

Whether it's part of football or not, the reason Seattle is so successful has been repeatedly reported as due to the great relationship between the coach and GM ... and the reason Harbaugh is at Michigan is the opposite.

[wynnron123]

Whether it's part of football or not, the reason Seattle is so successful has been repeatedly reported as due to the great relationship between the coach and GM ... and the reason Harbaugh is at Michigan is the opposite.

Bingo! Slag gets its..

[Pete]

And probably the fact that Carroll

Whether it's part of football or not, the reason Seattle is so successful has been repeatedly reported as due to the great relationship between the coach and GM ... and the reason Harbaugh is at Michigan is the opposite.

and the GM selected Richard Sherman types vs. Chip and/or Howie selecting Ed Reynolds types.

[Joegrane]

Whether it's part of football or not, the reason Seattle is so successful has been repeatedly reported as due to the great relationship between the coach and GM ... and the reason Harbaugh is at Michigan is the opposite.

I don't disagree about the importance of solid relationships but sometimes personalities don't work. Roseman seems squeaky clean; Gamble, maybe not so much. I don't claim to have any real knowledge of that.

Harbaugh needs some lithium to chill out, and not just for relationships with GMs!

[Raptor]

I agree..it's all speculation..here is another thing.

Banner left his childhood friend Lurie to explore other opportunities, including potential NFL team ownership.

Roseman had taken on an increased role in GM-type duties before Banner's departure.

Roseman became the GM (He had some other title before), but Lurie never replaced Banner's position of Executive VP or some shit.

Smolenski was hired as President.

Gamble was hired as VP of Player Personnel (I assume he had college and pro player duties) and reported directly to Roseman:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ayer-personnel

Kelly has made no secret that he knew Gamble, liked the guy, and his approach to football.

There have been some questionable personnel calls in the past two years, including (in no particular order):

Williams and Fletcher at CB, Allen at S
Oregon-heavy (and PAC-12-heavy) drafting, especially the Huff and Hart picks(?!)
Jackson's release
Cooper's contract
Mucus Smith (and the surrounding clusterfuck at the #22 pick)

Roseman fired Gamble (who was his direct report). Probably a dick move, especially with the reports of Gamble being escorted out of NovaCare. But if Howie thinks Gamble was either the weak link in the personnel calls or some kind of threat to Howie's power structure...

So, now all of a sudden, Chip Kelly is going to take his ball and go home? Or is Roseman going to fire him? I can't figure out which scenario is more preposterous. I imagine Kelly had a pretty clear picture where this was headed when he made his comments Monday.

I know-SUSP

If Gamble was such a Chip croney why did he interview for the Jets GM job in 2013??? But didn't land the gig because he couldn't see eye to eye with the owner??

Per Philly.com

The interview(s)

An NFL source confirmed a Phillymag.com report that Eagles offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur will interview for the Raiders' head-coaching position. Shurmur was the Browns' head coach in 2011 and 2012.

Meanwhile, another league source confirmed the New York Daily News report that the Jets will interview Eagles director of pro personnel Rick Mueller for their general manager opening. Generally, Tom Gamble is considered the top GM candidate in the Eagles' stable, but he interviewed with Jets owner Woody Johnson in 2013, before Johnson hired now-fired John Idzik, and they did not see eye-to-eye.