I've seen write ups wondering if Roseman and Kelly can co-exist.

[Drama Queen]

I like Roseman's structure and long term approach as a former GM, but I can't help but wonder if his presence undermines Chip's current authority.

Howie built a lot of relationships with other personnel throughout the league. With so many candidates declining to interview with Chip, I couldn't help but wonder if those outside candidates were taking sides with Howie by merely declining to interview. In a sense, they we hedging that Howie is the guy with more staying power, or they were unsure so they steered clear.

I would hate to think that Howie would directly or indirectly sabatoge the process by suggesting to outsiders that Maynowitz (sp ?) was the clear inside favorite. I have no reason to think that Roseman isn't a stand up guy, but these thinks happen. Knowing how much he loves the personnel side of the business, his mere presence may lend to suspicion and consternation amongst the ranks. That's not good.

Maybe they can all wear their big boy pants and get along. Maybe Roseman bides his time and plays it straight, which is the smartest thing to do in his situation.

I just think Lurie needs to ensure that everyone is 100% behind Chip or take action.

I'm all for a "dictatorship" approach to personnel and I'm hoping that Kelly isn't the bumbling over anxious, inexperienced personnel guy that ummmm Howie portrayed him to be with loving antidotes over the past two years.

[Sect 236]

Weren't there stories about how other GMs didn't like working with Howie? I know guys that have left there, like Louis Riddick, hate the guy's guts. I think the only person who really liked Howie was Lurie.

Imo the main reason a lot people turned down the Eagles job is because they were basically asking people to make a lateral move to be Chip's #2. Why go be a #2 somewhere else when you're already entrenched as a #2 at your current place.

Edit to add: I think Howie has to go though. He just strikes me as the kind of weasel who will try to undermine Chip at every turn. Lurie needs to give him the ax.

[Drama Queen]

The Louis Riddick comments is the first time I can remember anyone, past or present, breaking ranks publicly. That kick certainly was meant to keep Howie on ice, IMO. Actually, I was under the impression that they were interviewing guys looking for that next step up. It wasn't the traditional big job, but more like a half jump up in position.

I would think most of the canadiates would see it as a win-win for them. If Chip succeeds, they can write their ticket to the next GM opening and if Chip fails, it's because they didn't have complete say so with personnel.

[Joegrane]

....I would hate to think that Howie would directly or indirectly sabatoge the process ....

Not if he wants a job in the NFL. Everyone is watching.

[Drama Queen]

I agree with you, but you can't help wonder if people involved in the organization and maybe the candidates were caught up in this.

I believe Howie is decent enough to do the right thing and he has 1.7 million reasons to do so.

[Sect 236]

I remember there being quite a few candidates that the Eagles didn't receive permission to interview, who knows if those guys were interested or not, but it never even got to that level.

As far as voicing displeasure with Howie, yeah, Riddick is the only one to do it publicly. I guess that was me assuming he rubbed more people the wrong way, because by all accounts, Riddick is a very well liked guy, so if Howie pissed him off, chances are he did it with others too (Gamble etc)

Either way, it just sucks we're forced to deal with shit situations like this as fans. Thanks a bunch Jeffrey.

[J_Cuz31]

As far as voicing displeasure with Howie, yeah, Riddick is the only one to do it publicly. I guess that was me assuming he rubbed more people the wrong way, because by all accounts, Riddick is a very well liked guy, so if Howie pissed him off, chances are he did it with others too (Gamble etc)

didnt banner say something to the effect of, "you're out of your element, Howie?"

[Riccardo]

where'd you cut-and-paste this bull from?

I fell asleep after the first paragraph

[Drama Queen]

3I's mom is booked solid, so I had a little time to reflect.

[bobbyuk]

When the Eagles were looking for a new coach, several of their candidates, like Doug Marrone (good thing he didn't get hired) and Bill O'Brien were advised to steer clear of the Eagles because of Roseman. Several people in the league did not think he was a good enough GM. Now Lurie has absolved him of the drafts of 2010--when he became GM and 2011 saying they were the responsibilty of Banner and Reid. Well, what did he do then?

And there has been several write ups saying that there is a revolving door to the personnel position because of Howie--Licht--who when he came over from the Patriots, everyone thought he was top notch; Heckert, Marc Ross, and Tom Gamble. Even Chip didn't want the Eagles job at first and I think he only took it because Lurie intervened and let him hire Gamble.

I wrote several weeks ago that he'd be foolish to sabotage Kelly. Where else is he going to make 1.7M just doing salary cap and contracts? If another team were looking at GM, he would have been hired in this new window.