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  • #61
    Originally posted by Dim Bulb View Post
    But if there is a perception that he is racist, you agree that would not be a great thing in his GM role, correct?


    Correct, because then he would wind up with a team of all white boys that can't play for shit and then the Eagles never win a SB, or wait, then would that be reverse racism? Now I'm getting confused.:D

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dim Bulb View Post
      boo hooing is justified. Like if I had someone slash your tires in the parking lot. Or if your grandfather was lynched. Just saying.

      Funny you would say that, as my Grandfather WAS "lynched", Now what?

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      • #63
        Yeah I thought that's whrere we are.

        Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
        Correct, because then he would wind up with a team of all white boys that can't play for shit and then the Eagles never win a SB, or wait, then would that be reverse racism? Now I'm getting confused.:D
        I don't care if they're blue as long as they win a Lombardi before I die.
        DB

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Dim Bulb View Post

          A racist is someone who seeks to subjugate an entire race due to their race. I don't think most African Americans want to subjugate whites. Some might, though. And the name "racist" is appropriate for that small subset of African Americans.
          Problem here is your concocted definition of a racist, which by your definition applies pretty much exclusively to whites. A dimbulb should know better
          "I could buy you." - The Village Idiot

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          • #65
            you are entitled to boo hoo

            Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
            Funny you would say that, as my Grandfather WAS "lynched", Now what?
            that's the truth
            DB

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Dim Bulb View Post
              that's the truth

              None needed, it is what it is, he did it to himself.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Dim Bulb View Post
                I don't care if they're blue as long as they win a Lombardi before I die.


                Right there with ya brother!!!

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                • #68
                  Exactly

                  Originally posted by Dan Drives a Van View Post
                  I don't think Chip Kelly is racist. I have stated that in every post. I'm very pro-Kelly, and have supported all of his roster moves, except giving Cooper that contract.

                  I hope, as an Eagles fan who wants him to succeed, that he understands that pubic perception, as well as perception of players, is important.

                  When Smith says things like this, some people will listen and shift their viewpoint. To pretend it's IMPOSSIBLE for ANYONE to share his view is a bit delusional, in my opinion.
                  I don't think that Chip Kelly is a racist, not even close. Actually, I would find it shocking if ANY head coach in the NFL was a racist, since they have to spend so much time around Black players, and most of the time, with the exception of quarterbacks, those players are really determining whether or not said coach stays employed because they are the ones in the skill positions. With that being said, to sit around and think that the thought process that Stephen A spoke of does not exist is simply notliving in reality, and it's entirely understandable when you consider what happened with Riley.
                  The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is - Winston Churchill

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                  • #69
                    it's not my definition

                    Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
                    Problem here is your concocted definition of a racist, which by your definition applies pretty much exclusively to whites. A dimbulb should know better
                    Ever hear of the Holocaust? Armenia? Bands that have saxophone players?
                    DB

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                    • #70
                      yikes

                      Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
                      None needed, it is what it is, he did it to himself.
                      sorry to hear it.
                      DB

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by ReidsArmy View Post
                        Sat there on TV and said you're gonna keep Rley Cooper and get rid of DeSean, LeSean, and let Maclin walk? Ok. Then kept going on to say "I'm in Philly a lot. They have some brothers walkin aroind those streets saying what's up with that chip." Said the safe word chip uses for it is "culture".

                        I'm actually shocked he said all this.
                        Pot calling the kettle ............ ummm........ Black

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Eagle In Ohio View Post
                          I don't think that Chip Kelly is a racist, not even close. Actually, I would find it shocking if ANY head coach in the NFL was a racist, since they have to spend so much time around Black players, and most of the time, with the exception of quarterbacks, those players are really determining whether or not said coach stays employed because they are the ones in the skill positions. With that being said, to sit around and think that the thought process that Stephen A spoke of does not exist is simply notliving in reality, and it's entirely understandable when you consider what happened with Riley.


                          First off, I want to know, WHO made that deal with Coop, Chip, or Howie? Obviously Howie is the contract guy, so how does Chip even factor into the money side of Coop's contract?

                          Yes, he's the head coach, and I'm sure he has (at that time don't know how much) a say in all signing's, but I truly believe Chip wanted Coop around for his downfield blocking, I don't think he told Howie to pay the man because he needed a racist on the team to keep the boys in line.

                          Whether you want to admit it or not Coop is probably one of the best blocking WR's in the game.

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                          • #73
                            Sure it is

                            Merriam-Webster:

                            racism
                            noun rac·ism \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
                            : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race

                            : the belief that some races of people are better than others

                            Full Definition of RACISM

                            1
                            : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
                            2
                            : racial prejudice or discrimination
                            — rac·ist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective

                            By your inane definition, if person A hates person B because of their race, but has no interest in subjugating person B, then person A is not a racist.

                            Too much rage over fake rage is turning your brain into mush
                            "I could buy you." - The Village Idiot

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Eagle Road View Post
                              I don't think he told Howie to pay the man because he needed a racist on the team to keep the boys in line.
                              I don't think that's the argument anyone is making.

                              If anything the argument (incorrect in my opinion) is: if Kelly values culture, why would he value what Cooper brings to the culture of the locker room vs. what Jackson / McCoy / Maclin?

                              I can see why Smith and others raise the question though, even if I disagree and in the case of Smith think he's stirring the pot. The Eagles have the whitest team in the NFL and got rid of their two biggest stars, each of whom are black, with the word "culture" swirling around as the reason.

                              Because of Cooper's racist outburst, I think it's easy to muddle or interchange "culture" from a personal standpoint (drunken, racist asshole or wannabe gansta rapper) with football culture i.e. overall effort, interest in team goals over individual goals, buying into the practice/conditioning methods, etc. The latter culture if probably what Kelly cares about.

                              Honestly though, while culture is important to Kelly, the decisions regarding Jackson, Cooper, McCoy and Maclin likely have more to do with value, production, replaceability, and money more than anything else.
                              --
                              Your Retarded

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                              • #75
                                omg

                                Originally posted by Riccardo View Post
                                Merriam-Webster:

                                racism
                                noun rac·ism \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
                                : poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race

                                : the belief that some races of people are better than others

                                Full Definition of RACISM

                                1
                                : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
                                2
                                : racial prejudice or discrimination
                                — rac·ist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective

                                By your inane definition, if person A hates person B because of their race, but has no interest in subjugating person B, then person A is not a racist.

                                Too much rage over fake rage is turning your brain into mush
                                I'm not going to argue with someone who chooses a dictionary definition rather than seminal sociological studies.

                                Read White or DuBois. Fanon or Alexander. Then recite definitions from the dictionary.
                                DB

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