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  • #16
    I was, and am still a Fole-ator, but the difference is that when Bradford had a shit line, the ball came out quickly. If I had to guess what Kelly's biggest beef with Foles was, it was that he held onto the ball for too long.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by tjl88 View Post
      As good as Foles was two years ago he was equally as bad last year. Kelly's system needs a qb that can release the ball quickly be accurate and not make mistakes. A healthy Bradford does that better than Foles.
      to be fair...he wasn't equally bad. equally bad would mean that...since foles had an all time season for a qb...he would have had an all-time bad season for a qb. which he did not.

      he struggled...no doubt..but he didn't have 4td passes and 15 int's.

      he was inconsistent if anything...which is hardly shocking for a 2nd year starter.

      Bradford really does have skills, but he hasn't made anyone better nor can he stay healthy.

      If a qb is that good...he makes players better...and so far he has not.

      that can change...but until he proves it on the field...he's nothing at this point.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by tjl88 View Post
        to apocalypse because he upgraded qb, and shed 23 mil from salary cap for two players.
        Upgrade is a hell of a conclusion to reach. Bradford is almost a Sanchez-level reclamation project.

        I'll absolutely agree that the dude has tools, better tools than Sanchez and Foles. And if the Eagles were inserting him into last year's starting lineup, I think he'd be in a position to succeed if he can stay healthy.

        But now Kelly has significantly reshuffled the offensive personnel. Running back by committee appears to be the plan, with last year's best receiver gone. Bradford, even if healthy, is stepping into a new situation with a lot of other moving parts and being asked to succeed (enough so that he solves the QB-of-the-future problem...assuming the future is 5 years, not 10).

        And that's leaving aside the injury possibility. Chip likes to say the best ability is durability. Bradford hasn't shown that.

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        • #19
          Yeah a lot of people at games were screaming there were multiple open receivers and foles missed even looking at them. If Bradford can be efficient and healthy? upgrade
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          • #20
            Originally posted by slag View Post
            So what?

            You think Bradford is a better gamble at that price than Foles at his?
            Right now, if you're going to compare gambles, it's Bradford to MM or any other drafted QB.

            It's pretty clear that Foles wasn't going to stay on this team.

            If he wasn't part of the Bradford trade he almost certainly would have been traded for something else.
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            • #21
              Its played

              he's been a complete asshole...people are allowed to have their Opinions, you don't have to agree with them or read their posts...Im done with his shit,,,he's in the Bin,,,guy barely talks football anyway.

              reminds me of the 3 monkeys,, hear No evil speak No evil ect
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              • #22
                If Foles played well for Iggs in 2015

                Originally posted by slag View Post
                So what?

                You think Bradford is a better gamble at that price than Foles at his?
                He would command much more than $13mil to keep. $13 mil for a single season with no ongoing risk isn't a lot for a starting QB.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by tjl88 View Post
                  to apocalypse because he upgraded qb, and shed 23 mil from salary cap for two players.
                  tjl88 They are just confused. It will take a few weeks and their precious sports writers to finally get their head of of their ass and explain this move to them.

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                  • #24
                    No its annoying that people fly off the handle at every move/rumor

                    Without waiting for the bigger picture. Pretty immature imo
                    "I could buy you." - The Village Idiot

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                    • #25
                      oh go play tennis

                      you're in a 3 set match, you lose the first game. It's all over, right? Why wait to see what happens? Is that what you teach your students? good lord what a dope
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                      • #26
                        I hope you're right ... I really do.

                        You've seen him more than me so I have to defer right now.

                        I will say that if he has the other intangibles to go with the arm you say, this could be better than it looks to me right now.

                        I also have to say, listening to Kelly I feel a little better but I don't know what's bullshit or not ... he made it sound like he and Foles take saunas together.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tjl88 View Post
                          to apocalypse because he upgraded qb, and shed 23 mil from salary cap for two players.
                          I'll explain why MY thought process changed..and some here have said it all along and Chip said it himself in the pressser today...and it has me very concerned.

                          Paraphrased "NFL is a 1 year league"

                          Basically we have to win this year or were out.

                          I just don't agree with that analogy. Sounds like Chip wants to win big or lose fast and leave. I guess I'm excited in some way about the boom or bust aspect, but I've very concerned 2016 rolls around after a 6-10 season with no Chip, no QB, no RB, and no WR and the franchise eats shit for a couple years.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DJCon57 View Post
                            I'll explain why MY thought process changed..and some here have said it all along and Chip said it himself in the pressser today...and it has me very concerned.

                            Paraphrased "NFL is a 1 year league"

                            Basically we have to win this year or were out.

                            I just don't agree with that analogy. Sounds like Chip wants to win big or lose fast and leave. I guess I'm excited in some way about the boom or bust aspect, but I've very concerned 2016 rolls around after a 6-10 season with no Chip, no QB, no RB, and no WR and the franchise eats shit for a couple years.
                            I SHOULD ADD...

                            I'm still giving Chip a much longer leash than most.

                            I don't doubt Bradford can be a Top 10 QB if healthy...but I mean, he's never healthy. He's been knocked out of 3 NFL seasons and 1 college season.

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                            • #29
                              Foles was the luckiest man alive two seasons ago

                              Time and time again he made a boneheaded play. Time and time again he somehow got away with it.

                              I'm not sold on Bradford, Mariotta or anyone else that seems within reach. With that being said, it could be that the best thing about last season was Foles getting hurt before he could damage his trade value any further.

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                              • #30
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                                You are the complete asshole. Hahahaha! and a bitch!

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