Count Boykin as another who thinks Kelly's a racist

[IronEagle]

He likes guys who don't beef and buy in?

I'm thinking it's more like he doesn't like guys who value bling and bottle service.

[slag]

IDK ... like I implied above, he cuts guys without that rep.

[IronEagle]

IDK ... like I implied above, he cuts guys without that rep.

I think Diggle has a point. To me there is no doubt that Kelly does not like players who embrace hip hop culture.

Now as to racism... the question in my mind is whether culture = race. Personally I don't equate the two. But I also believe there can be a correlation between culture and race.

[Riccardo]

How do you know that?

To me there is no doubt that Kelly does not like players who embrace hip hop culture.

Are there no players on the roster now that "embrace hip hop culture"?

[slag]

I'm not buying the race thing ... but I have to concede that hanging in the club with a bottle of bub isn't drinking wheat grass smoothies and getting 12 hours of sleep.

[IronEagle]

Are there no players on the roster now that "embrace hip hop culture"?

I have no idea. This is just my uninformed opinion. I do see a pattern here... you disagree. You are welcome to disagree.

And I'm not calling it "racism".

[Dim Bulb]

Dunno, IE

I think Diggle has a point. To me there is no doubt that Kelly does not like players who embrace hip hop culture.

Now as to racism... the question in my mind is whether culture = race. Personally I don't equate the two. But I also believe there can be a correlation between culture and race.

I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that there are black players on the team in good standing with Chip who like hip hop culture. It's just that they don't behave in an immature way with respect to the team.

Chip seems to me to not like complainers, has nothing to do with hip hop. Mathis, LeSean, DJax. Even Diggle said DJax was pretty immature.

As to CCP's assertion that because more than a few people have made this complaint, that's true. But to me it doesn't indicate the truth of the underlying assertion, but rather that a narrative has taken root in the chattering class and among players that is probably overstated dramatically.

It's sort of like a narrative about a politician, "He's tough on crime," "he tells it like it is," "He's dumb." Once the narrative takes hold, every possible incident that occurs that builds the narrative is reported, while everything else is discarded. That's what's happening with Chip, I think.

[Overbrook]

No he doesn't.

Please expound on your statement "there is no doubt that Kelly does not like players who embrace hip hop culture"


No doubt? From where does that come?


Perhaps you and Diggle equating black players to "hip hop culture" are the ones making the racist statements.

[IronEagle]

Please expound on your statement "there is no doubt that Kelly does not like players who embrace hip hop culture"


No doubt? From where does that come?


Perhaps you and Diggle equating black players to "hip hop culture" are the ones making the racist statements.

OK, so now I'M a racist.

[Riccardo]

This

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[Overbrook]

So you're not going to expound on your blanket statement?

OK, so now I'M a racist.

You feel just tossing out accusations willy nilly is acceptable?

[IronEagle]

You feel just tossing out accusations willy nilly is acceptable?

You win. I'm a racist, Chip Kelly is lily white.

[Dim Bulb]

While I disagree with IE's factual assertion

Please expound on your statement "there is no doubt that Kelly does not like players who embrace hip hop culture"


No doubt? From where does that come?


Perhaps you and Diggle equating black players to "hip hop culture" are the ones making the racist statements.

It doesn't make him a racist. He is using data points to come to a conclusion that I don't see. Not racist at all.

[Dim Bulb]

White as a

You win. I'm a racist, Chip Kelly is lily white.

coconut milk and banana smoothie in a Confederate flag thermal mug.

[Overbrook]

Wow, I never had you pegged as a coward.

You win. I'm a racist, Chip Kelly is lily white.

Makes hit and run obnoxious statements but won't (can't) back them up.