From an injury perspective, I keep Barkley as 3rd QB

[Maniac]

You have such a safe stance as a fan. If the Eagles/Chip suck you'll get to hang your hat on your ITYS. If they succeed you'll get to enjoy it and at most "eat crow" for not being on the Chip Ship sooner.

How can anyone be considered the emotionally invested as a fan with that type of stance?

"I told you so" isn't going to bring back another wasted year or fix a trashed roster. I'd take crow over that anytime.

Kelly is the guy who isn't invested. He's already pocketed 25M and has a golden parachute back to college any time he wants.

I have no problem with optimism. I have a problem with assholes trying to shout down people who don't agree with everything Kelly does.

Bradford is a big gamble but Kelly has nothing to lose.

[Maniac]

I enjoy when you call people out on this one.

Same here because he's probably the least invested poster on the board. Captain Arbitrary.

[Sect 236]

I understand the logic behind it, but to say without a shadow of a doubt (as you're doing) that Chip isn't invested is absolutely ludicrous. Spurrier wasn't invested, Chip's problem might ultimately be that he's too invested aka too much power.

You can question if his methods will work, you can withhold throwing a parade for 3 preseason victories and you can point out the obvious fact that he can secure another job if he fails (most well respected coaches can too) but to say he's not invested is just crazy.

What about his actions since he's taken over indicate that he's not invested? Was it releasing the players that don't fit his idea of the team? Or was it the time that he forced the owner to give him GM powers? Maybe it was when he started regimenting his players' day to day lives because he thought it made his team better.

I'm a Chip fan, but I also understand where those who aren't completely sold on him are coming from too. I just think it's doing him a disservice to question his investment.

[McCarthy12]

Kelly isn't invested? That's not true. The guy lives for football. It's his entire life. I get the whole "he can just go back to college" thing. Most coaches can get another job. The notion that he doesn't care is absurd IMO. He's obsessed with winning. He's plenty invested. It's called pride.

[Maniac]

No doubt he's invested in football and invested in winning. But I don't think he's as emotionally invested in the Eagles as a lot of the people here.

He's a professional football coach, not a fan.

[Riccardo]

huh? This is his career and current job

Not as emotionally invested as a bunch of schlubs that go to and/or watch games on TV? Silly

[McCarthy12]

I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure as head coach, he is more emotionally invested than I am. I would hope so, anyway haha. He strikes me as a very proud and driven guy.

[slag]

The introduction of Kelly into a discussion on fan investment makes no sense.

EDITED TO ADD: But then you must know that, because you've stated he's not a fan and is, instead, what every other coach is in the NFL ... ie. a professional coach.

[Maniac]

he's not a fan and is, instead, what every other coach is in the NFL ... ie. a professional coach.

Agreed although I think it's worth noting in a discussion of emotional investment.

[J_Cuz31]

He is the best Option between the 2,,Two weeks ago people were asking if he Could beat out Sanchize,,, If we get to the 3rd stringer does it matter who it is?

Tebow is just a short yardage Gimmick,, I can see a ton of 2 point conversions thrown away with him!

it matters if sanchez sustains a significant injury. at that point barkley/tebow is gonna be the guy who runs the offense if the eagles have a three td lead late in the game.

you arent looking for perfection at that spot but you need a guy who can run the offense.

[slag]

Why?

Every coach should be as emotionally invested, or not, as Kelly.

[TerpEagle]

"I told you so" isn't going to bring back another wasted year or fix a trashed roster. I'd take crow over that anytime.

Kelly is the guy who isn't invested. He's already pocketed 25M and has a golden parachute back to college any time he wants.

I have no problem with optimism. I have a problem with assholes trying to shout down people who don't agree with everything Kelly does.

Bradford is a big gamble but Kelly has nothing to lose.

Dude, you've disagreed with Kelly from the start. Don't get all pissypants when his HSH methods appear to be workjng and you get called out for it. There's still a chance you'll get your ITYS.

And as I've arbitrarily argued before, this "he can get another job" angle is complete bullshit. Most NFL coaches can get another job. They last 4 Eagles head coaches were all hired as NFL head coaches after leaving the Eagles. And only one of them was labeled a genius.

Keep your stance if you like. I'll enjoy watching the Eagles. Or maybe I wont. Perhaps I'll flip a coin to decide.

[Maniac]

Bullshit. There is no evidence the high school stuff has helped at all. There are lots of coaches who have won ten games in a season without smoothies. The Eagles are dominating in preseason because nobody is game planning to slow the offense down. Wait till the regular season and the fake injuries before you put a trophy in th case.

But I'll count you as all-in on Kelly winning a Super Bowl. Good to see you finally taking a position.

[Maniac]

Why?

Every coach should be as emotionally invested, or not, as Kelly.

Some coaches are more mercenary than others. Doesn't matter to me as long as he wins.

[TerpEagle]

Bullshit. There is no evidence the high school stuff has helped at all. There are lots of coaches who have won ten games in a season without smoothies. The Eagles are dominating in preseason because nobody is game planning to slow the offense down. Wait till the regular season and the fake injuries before you put a trophy in th case.

But I'll count you as all-in on Kelly winning a Super Bowl. Good to see you finally taking a position.

You've considered him an amateur from the start - it's obvious in what you've said. Well he's won 20 games in 2 years and turned around a 4-12 team in one. How amateurish to exceed the league average.

What fan isn't all-in on Kelly winning the Super Bowl. I am an Eagles fan, I'm all in for the Eagles winning the Super Bowl all the time.

Am I prescient and can I say for sure that Kelly will win it? Of course not. I think he gives the team a good chance and like what he's done so far. Maybe my lack of definitive preduction of the future makes me arbitrary. Oh well.

Anyway, no more talk of how Kelly has another job in his future and that makes him less invested?