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    #46
    Originally posted by slag View Post
    I'll compare whoever the fuck I want.

    And I can flip a coin and be as valid as your analysis about whether Kelly will or won't be successful in the NFL.
    Okay, go ahead and look like an idiot if you want. only a moron would use Carroll as a comparable
    And history is against you that Chip will ever be successful in the NFL.

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      #47
      Only a moron would think I'm comparing them as coaches as opposed to making a point about patience.
      Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.

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        #48
        Originally posted by slag View Post
        Only a moron would think I'm comparing them as coaches as opposed to making a point about patience.
        Patience? The Eagles regressed each year. The guy was running the same plays as he was the first year. Where was this genius? Where was the innovation? He is a one trick pony and he proved it.

        55 years is patience enough. Chip needed to go back to little boy football where he belongs and leave the pros to the big boys.

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          #49
          I'm not unhappy about Kelly leaving, I think he should have fired Davis and kept the playmakers he had ... and he appeared to have a disconnect with the team because he wasn't adjusting to the NFL quickly enough.

          The point about patience is that Kelly got dumped this fast because that dweeb had been chirping in Lurie's ear ... and that guy has proven he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing over a longer time than Kelly has.

          Roseman reminds me of the guys here who are happy the Eagles suck because it means they get to pat themselves on the back for their opinion on Kelly ... that you?

          And if you think anything is changing for the better with Kelly out and Roseman in you better have a shitload of the patience you say you don't have.
          Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.

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            #50
            Originally posted by slag View Post
            I'm not unhappy about Kelly leaving, I think he should have fired Davis and kept the playmakers he had ... and he appeared to have a disconnect with the team because he wasn't adjusting to the NFL quickly enough.

            The point about patience is that Kelly got dumped this fast because that dweeb had been chirping in Lurie's ear ... and that guy has proven he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing over a longer time than Kelly has.

            Roseman reminds me of the guys here who are happy the Eagles suck because it means they get to pat themselves on the back for their opinion on Kelly ... that you?

            And if you think anything is changing for the better with Kelly out and Roseman in you better have a shitload of the patience you say you don't have.
            First of all, Chip was not who I wanted Lurie to hire but once he did hire him, I supported Chip. I do not make the decisions so it serves no purpose to root for any coach hired to fail without giving the guy a chance. I don't understand why anyone would root against him since that means you are rooting against your own team.

            that being said, this was the year I was looking at as the make or break year for Chip. His first year, he had many of Reids players and his offense was new to the league. he took the league by surprise and did well. In year 2, the league had a whole year of tape on Chips offense. As the season went on, the league was starting to catch up to him. he started 5-1 but the offense was struggling at times. After their bye week, the offense continued to bog down and he went 5-5 the rest of the way with the collapse at the end. Chip was fortunate with the Defense and Special teams scoring a number of TDs to make up for the offense under performing. His 3rd year was where I wanted to see him make the adjustments to the league but he regressed yet again and there is no arguing that they were just painful to watch. Chip failed miserably this year not only with the personnel moves he made but with coaching. I mean, he got outcoached twice by an arena football coach in Jay Gruden. Chip showed he was in over his head and was incapable of adjusting to the NFL.

            As for Howie, how do you know what decisions were his and which decisions were Reids or Chips? Reid always took all the blame and chip took none of the blame. I am in no way supporting Howie but how do you know if he is a good GM or not?

            And just so you know, I prefer someone other than Howie to be the GM.
            Last edited by joe9518; 01-01-2016, 04:43 PM.

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              #51
              In spite of the coach-speak bullshit about Bradford, Kelly never had his QB.

              And in the "big boy" league as you put it ... that's the game.

              EDITED TO ADD: Again, I'm not unhappy about Kelly leaving because I fucking loathe Davis' defense and was concerned that, at best, the Eagles would be Kelly's NFL training wheels before he had success elsewhere and, at worst, you'd be right and he'd never be an NFL coach.

              But the return of Roseman is driving me nuts.
              Last edited by slag; 01-01-2016, 04:55 PM. Reason: clarity
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                #52
                Originally posted by slag View Post
                In spite of the coach-speak bullshit about Bradford, Kelly never had his QB.

                And in the "big boy" league as you put it ... that's the game.
                No, Bradford was his hand picked QB. Stop with the excuses. The whole read option QB would have failed also. You know why Kapernick and RG3 were benched this year by their respective teams, because defenses figured out that gimmick read option crap.

                In the big boy league, you need a QB that can stand in the pocket and read defenses. Oh wait, that was another failure of Chips system, it didn't allow his QB to read the defense pre-snap and call an audible.

                And as for Davis, you know why Chip hired Davis, because no other good DC wanted to deal with Chips offense which exposed his defense game after game.
                Last edited by joe9518; 01-01-2016, 04:55 PM.

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                  #53
                  Russell Wilson has failed how?
                  John Erlichman, one of President Richard Nixon's closest aides, has admitted America's "War on Drugs" was a hoax designed to vilify and disrupt "the antiwar left and black people" when it was launched in 1971.

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                    #54
                    He hired Davis before he coached one fucking NFL game.

                    Mariotta was his hand picked QB.

                    Bradford was part of what he thought he could package to get him and was plan B when it didn't work out.

                    In the big boy league Kelly's offense worked and would have continued to work if he had Maclin, Jackson and McCoy on the field even with plan B.

                    Well, assuming they didn't get the drops.
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Loki View Post
                      Russell Wilson has failed how?
                      Wilson is not a read option QB. No comparison.

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                        #56
                        PS - Once again, for the reasons expressed in this thread and elsewhere, I'm not unhappy about Kelly leaving ... but I am not convinced that you know so much that it's a lock that Kelly will never succeed in the NFL.

                        The issue is whether he's too stubborn to adjust.

                        And, yes, some of what he did worked in spite of your assessment that it was all shit.
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by slag View Post
                          He hired Davis before he coached one fucking NFL game.

                          Mariotta was his hand picked QB.

                          Bradford was part of what he thought he could package to get him and was plan B when it didn't work out.

                          In the big boy league Kelly's offense worked and would have continued to work if he had Maclin, Jackson and McCoy on the field even with plan B.

                          Well, assuming they didn't get the drops.
                          You don't think DCs didnt know what Chips offense was all about? They saw him run it at Oregon.
                          And stop, Chip knew he was not getting Mariota long before he got Bradford.

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                            #58
                            Lol... This place never fails.

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                              #59
                              Really?

                              http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/nfl/seattle-seahawks/article35667588.html
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                                #60
                                Actually I'm not sure he did ... which of course, then makes it a legit criticism of him as a GM.
                                Obscenity is the last refuge of an inarticulate motherfucker.

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