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  • #16
    I liked it, but it was an hour too long. Great to see Pesci again. I actually thought Ray Romano was really good in it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Duck View Post

      I took about five hours to get through it. I was constantly looking things up for the historical context. I thought it was fascinating.

      It's a very talky movie... but I love Zaillian's dialogue, so I enjoyed it a lot. The usual Scorsese soundtrack was noticeably absent, but Robbie Robertson's score is pretty damn good. Anyone looking for Goodfellas or Casino is probably going to be disappointed. It's definitely your grandfather's mob movie... which I guess makes me the grandfather now.
      I think if you sat through the entire three and half hours in a theatre you might think differently about the movie.

      i also think, unlike you do, that the movie was enormously derivative of GoodFellas and Casino, at least until the last hour.


      Last edited by RSE; 12-04-2019, 06:33 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ellsworth View Post
        I read the book and liked it but thought it was a lot of fabricated BS, which evidently has been proven to be true. The Gallo murder part was beyond laughable.

        In light of that feeling, my family here for T-day (deep fried possum), and the fact it's over 3:30 long.. I haven't gotten around to seeing the movie yet. And, I'm not sure I will, frankly. Some people I trust are really shitting all over it. other people love it.

        I don't know if I have ever heard such a difference of opinion on a movie in my life (and from people whose opinions I totally respect).

        Sounds like it's an hour too long and DeNiro looks like a goddamned Terminator the entire flick.
        It was OK, for the cast and Scorcese movie did not live up to the hype.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by RSE View Post

          I think if you sat through the entire three and half hours in a theatre you might think differently about the movie.

          i also think, unlike you do, that the movie was enormously derivative of GoodFellas and Casino, at least until the last hour.

          Subject matter, sure. The approach, the tenor of the thing felt different to me... as different as a Scorese mob movie with DeNiro and Pesci could feel, anyway. Where the others were anxious and kinetic, this was somber and more introspective. I think he made a conscious choice to pull back on the soundtrack to accomplish that (it certainly wasn't a budgetary consideration). Pacino had a lot to do with it too. He was much better as Hoffa than I expected him to be... and as good as he's been in anything since "Heat", IMO.

          My friend saw it in the theater and was on the fence about it. Watched it at home a couple of weeks later and loved it. So I get that. I saw a 70mm print of Lawrence of Arabia at the Egyptian years ago... as awesome as it was to behold, and it was awesome, I'll never see anything approaching four hours in a theater again.
          Last edited by The Duck; 12-04-2019, 08:39 PM.

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          • #20
            Sheeran and 326 sponsored my baseball team back in the day. Didn't see any killings or mob guys though but I think he was in jail by the time I played.

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            • #21
              Loved it, but clearly biased growing up in NEPA in Bufalino's heyday. Everyone within 60 miles of his home in Kingston (not Pittston) knew exactly who he was and what he was about.
              Originally posted by NorthJerseyEAGLES:



              "I know I'm stupid"

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              • #22
                My family is from NEPA. Calabrian, not Sicilian; Calabrese are the only people who Silicians fear. Albert Anastasia was Calabrese. My great uncle, who lived a very colorful life, was at one time an enforcer for the Calabrian mob (‘Ndrangheta) in Lackawanna County.

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