Nfl Protest and the Eagles

[1960]

Not taking a stand either way but it seems as though this whole thing has messed up a lot of teams ie Steelers. You have got to give Petey and Laurie credit for handling this thing the right way last season which made this season seamless. Also have to give Jenkins credit for doing and saying the right things. I think this team really respects their coach and the organization.

[Birdwatcher]

What Pence did today was despicable

Not taking a stand either way but it seems as though this whole thing has messed up a lot of teams ie Steelers. You have got to give Petey and Laurie credit for handling this thing the right way last season which made this season seamless. Also have to give Jenkins credit for doing and saying the right things. I think this team really respects their coach and the organization.

He went to that game in Indy fully intending to walk out, nice use of taxpayer money to make a trip, disrupt the fans by requiring tighter security, just to make his own political statement. BTW, how disrespectful is it to take a knee? It is not a norm, but not what the orangutan in chief has portrayed it as, turning your back would be disrespectful. But it does fit nicely in his plans to further divide and agitate the electorate, a good way to distract from his other embarrassing failures so far.

[Ellsworth]

On the day the colts honored Manning on top of it.

[rdog5]

He went to that game in Indy fully intending to walk out, nice use of taxpayer money to make a trip, disrupt the fans by requiring tighter security, just to make his own political statement. BTW, how disrespectful is it to take a knee? It is not a norm, but not what the orangutan in chief has portrayed it as, turning your back would be disrespectful. But it does fit nicely in his plans to further divide and agitate the electorate, a good way to distract from his other embarrassing failures so far.

1. Yes its the President who thinks taking a knee is disrespectful. Not the millions of other people who are just blind sheep following. Those same people who thought it was disrespectful before he was even elected. Its funny when those that are so tolerant spout of the most narrow minded beliefs.

2. Yes its the President that further divides and agitates the electorate. I know it must be painful to use history as a guide when it does not fit the agenda you prefer but the following statistic demonstrates the significant divide started a while ago. Trump has done little to nothing to reverse this trend but the significant divide occurred during the Obama administration. Also of significance during that time period was the advent of social media and the current trend to criticize what other people say or do rather than report of factual news.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-con...153147/1_3.png

[headknocker]

1. Yes its the President who thinks taking a knee is disrespectful. Not the millions of other people who are just blind sheep following. Those same people who thought it was disrespectful before he was even elected. Its funny when those that are so tolerant spout of the most narrow minded beliefs.

2. Yes its the President that further divides and agitates the electorate. I know it must be painful to use history as a guide when it does not fit the agenda you prefer but the following statistic demonstrates the significant divide started a while ago. Trump has done little to nothing to reverse this trend but the significant divide occurred during the Obama administration. Also of significance during that time period was the advent of social media and the current trend to criticize what other people say or do rather than report of factual news.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-con...153147/1_3.png

I couldn't agree more. The Obama's started the divide and for anyone to say otherwise haven't really been paying attention.

[06hawkalum]

I couldn't agree more. The Obama's started the divide and for anyone to say otherwise haven't really been paying attention.

How did the Obamas, plural, start the divide?

This talking point, which you probably picked up from a FB meme, is hollow without facts to back it up.

[joe9518]

1. Yes its the President who thinks taking a knee is disrespectful. Not the millions of other people who are just blind sheep following. Those same people who thought it was disrespectful before he was even elected. Its funny when those that are so tolerant spout of the most narrow minded beliefs.

2. Yes its the President that further divides and agitates the electorate. I know it must be painful to use history as a guide when it does not fit the agenda you prefer but the following statistic demonstrates the significant divide started a while ago. Trump has done little to nothing to reverse this trend but the significant divide occurred during the Obama administration. Also of significance during that time period was the advent of social media and the current trend to criticize what other people say or do rather than report of factual news.

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-con...153147/1_3.png

Yes, Obama started this divide in America because he offended the white man by being black. The Republicans could not stand the fact that they lost to a black man. That is why the divide got worse under Obama.
Trump loves you.

[rdog5]

Yes, Obama started this divide in America because he offended the white man by being black. The Republicans could not stand the fact that they lost to a black man. That is why the divide got worse under Obama.
Trump loves you.

You are another example of the partisan divide driving your opinion. You like to believe that race is a larger factor than it is just because you know that is the ultimate weapon to put someone on defense. If someone does not approve of Obama's policies it must be factored in race rather then them simply having a different point of view. Race relations are the worst in my adult life and a lot of those flames were fanned during the Obama Administration. Quite honestly the tipping point was when the leader of our country could not stand in front of the American people and call Michael Brown out for the criminal that he was and Officer Wilson was heroic in his actions. That created this atmosphere of let them riot. I digress but if you look at the graph, it actually shows the divide starting earlier than the Obama Administration but it was during his administration that it increased exponentially. As the President you are responsible for what happens in your time in office even if out of your control. It is why we blame Bush for the housing bubble bursting when it was a philosophy of predatory lending that started under the Clinton Administration.

[Eagle Road]

How did the Obamas, plural, start the divide?

This talking point, which you probably picked up from a FB meme, is hollow without facts to back it up.

I'm going to post this, not because Elder destroys Rubin on the topic, but rather because the left really needs better points/representation if they are going to sway my opinion on the subject.

I'm a died in the wool conservative, but I have always tried to keep an open mind when debating a subject, but I could have argued the other side better than Rubin, jeez!

The bottom line is there has always been and always will be sick, poor, disadvantaged in the WORLD, not just in THIS country, it will never be perfect, and thinking it will be is just setting yourself up for failure.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...8&action=click

[CbEagle]

Yep you checked off all the boxes on the Alex Jones checklist, proud of ya!

[rdog5]

Yep you checked off all the boxes on the Alex Jones checklist, proud of ya!

Quite comical when a centrist presents an opinion counter to what you want to believe is true based in factual data you resort to labeling.

[Birdwatcher]

Sir, you are not a centrist

Quite comical when a centrist presents an opinion counter to what you want to believe is true based in factual data you resort to labeling.

The divide you speak of started with Gingrich, and Hastert the pedophile speaker of the house. They decided that compromise was not an option, and that the GOP would only advance legislation that garnered a majority of their votes. Congress used to actually compromise on legislation, but it became our way or the highway. When Obama came into office they became the anti-Obama party and for eight years did everything they could to undermine his presidency, and now they are all appalled now that Trump's asinine behavior has the press uncovering much of the dubious shit he tried to hide in his campaign.

They have harnessed hatred and anger, while pointing the finger at the left for everything that is wrong, which is childish. If you can't look in a mirror and question yourself, which they do not do, then you paint yourself into a corner. Look up the term 'Pyrrhic victory,' because that is what the GOP got with Trump. He has no direction, he just wants to win, at any cost. Therefore, the GOP is now stuck in the mire, because if they pass the legislation that will satisfy their donors, then they will screw a lot of the people that actually vote for them, and all the negative advertising money in the world won't buy back their votes. Ask yourself this, why are his supporters still so angry now that he has won? Because he wants you pissed off, that way you don't think logically and will not see how you have been scammed.

[rdog5]

The divide you speak of started with Gingrich, and Hastert the pedophile speaker of the house. They decided that compromise was not an option, and that the GOP would only advance legislation that garnered a majority of their votes. Congress used to actually compromise on legislation, but it became our way or the highway. When Obama came into office they became the anti-Obama party and for eight years did everything they could to undermine his presidency, and now they are all appalled now that Trump's asinine behavior has the press uncovering much of the dubious shit he tried to hide in his campaign.

They have harnessed hatred and anger, while pointing the finger at the left for everything that is wrong, which is childish. If you can't look in a mirror and question yourself, which they do not do, then you paint yourself into a corner. Look up the term 'Pyrrhic victory,' because that is what the GOP got with Trump. He has no direction, he just wants to win, at any cost. Therefore, the GOP is now stuck in the mire, because if they pass the legislation that will satisfy their donors, then they will screw a lot of the people that actually vote for them, and all the negative advertising money in the world won't buy back their votes. Ask yourself this, why are his supporters still so angry now that he has won? Because he wants you pissed off, that way you don't think logically and will not see how you have been scammed.

Now go back and read the posts as you call me not a centrist. Look at the language used, the thoughts presented. Take the advice of your own post and look in the mirror and question yourself.

He went to that game in Indy fully intending to walk out, nice use of taxpayer money to make a trip<--- You know someone's intent when you have little to no knowledge of the event, you don't even give it the courtesy to identify it as your opinion but state it as fact

BTW, how disrespectful is it to take a knee? It is not a norm, but not what the orangutan in chief has portrayed it as<-- Again use of disparaging remarks towards our President, regardless of my thoughts of the President as well as many other positions in this country I respect the office and power of communication so I would not use disparaging remarks against the president outside of criminal behavior.

his plans to further divide and agitate the electorate, a good way to distract from his other embarrassing failures so far. <--- Embarrassing failures so far but no mention of the success? You know his intent

Now you speak of the political divide during the Gingrich years which a seed may have been planted then. It is difficult to find when the seed was planted but through the years it is easy to track where it grew. You presented an argument but have no factual basis to back it up. If you go to the 3rd graph in this link it would seem to counter your argument in case you want to use facts. Doesn't mean your argument is wrong, just if the seed was planted then it took almost a decade to come to fruition.

http://difficultrun.nathanielgivens....itical-divide/

[1960]

That escalated quickly.

[Loki]

You must be pretty young

Race relations prior to MLK and that whole era were horrific.