Do we even have a defensive game plan

[Mr. Triple Dip]

They've won one Super Bowl since he bought the team in '94 and that's only because they brought back the QB they never should've gotten rid of. They got lucky once so it's not like they're the Steelers of the seventies. All of this has been documented over the last few years. It's not even speculation anymore.

15 organizations have won a Super Bowl since '94 - less than half of the league, it is difficult to do and there will always be some "luck" involved. Since 2000 the Eagles are tied for 4th in the league for # of playoff wins. There have and will still be failures along the way - but history has shown their methods lead to more wins than losses.

[Lar6767]

No denying the owner and organization have their hands all over the team - but if it is to the extend that you are saying where the Luries are dictating everything then doesn't that same logic mean their method won a Super Bowl 4 years ago? Or do they only have control when things go poorly?

They've won one Super Bowl since he bought the team in '94 and that's only because they brought back the QB they never should've gotten rid of. They got lucky once so it's not like they're the Steelers of the seventies. All of this has been documented over the last few years. It's not even speculation anymore.

[Mr. Triple Dip]

That's because it is Billy Davis's defense.. and Schwartz's and Gannon's... The philosophies used by this team do not come from the coaching staff but from Lurie and his son who runs the analytics team. They dictate what happens which is why they hire inexperienced coaches and have no problem firing winners. In their minds the coach is irrelevant which is the reason McDaniel bailed when they explained how it works. The defense is the same bend but don't break, huge cushions, no linebackers, they still defer(who in their right mind defers to get Brady onto the field first?) they ignore the run, they pick players based on nepotism(Reagor). These things don't change from coach to coach, though they should, because they aren't coming from the coaches. It's all Lurie.

No denying the owner and organization have their hands all over the team - but if it is to the extend that you are saying where the Luries are dictating everything then doesn't that same logic mean their method won a Super Bowl 4 years ago? Or do they only have control when things go poorly?

[Lar6767]

I thought I’d never hate watching a defense as much as Billy Davis’s defense but here we are

That's because it is Billy Davis's defense.. and Schwartz's and Gannon's... The philosophies used by this team do not come from the coaching staff but from Lurie and his son who runs the analytics team. They dictate what happens which is why they hire inexperienced coaches and have no problem firing winners. In their minds the coach is irrelevant which is the reason McDaniel bailed when they explained how it works. The defense is the same bend but don't break, huge cushions, no linebackers, they still defer(who in their right mind defers to get Brady onto the field first?) they ignore the run, they pick players based on nepotism(Reagor). These things don't change from coach to coach, though they should, because they aren't coming from the coaches. It's all Lurie.

[art vandelay]

lots of talk about one of the best d lines in the league. Supposedly a better back end.

It’s almost as though Brandon Graham was a big loss.

Back end actually has been better.

[1960]

I don’t know what it means to hire coaches hoping they’ll grow into the role. I especially don’t know who thought this defense was supposed to have some talent. If anything I thought they’d be one of the worst in the league.

This defense has had 3 good games and 3 bad games. The bad games have come against the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ranking offenses in the NFL. Sounds about right for a defense with maybe 4 good players. If you think they suck, that’s cool, but it makes no sense to blame it all on the DC.

lots of talk about one of the best d lines in the league. Supposedly a better back end.

[Mr. Triple Dip]

I realize this is a hot take, but tonight I’m seeing a defense that’s doing enough against the best offense in the NFL to keep the team in the game. The offense is making things very tough on them.

We’ve seen worse defenses within the last decade - it’s just so far I can’t think of one I’ve hated watching more. The soft shell is just demoralizing to watch long TD drives.

[Dim Bulb]

Bend then break.

[art vandelay]

Dude, we seem to be at odds on our takes which I chalk up to that I’m old and angry and you aren’t. But this defense has shown nothing given they were supposed to have some talent. In this league you don’t hire coaches hoping they will grow into the role.

I don’t know what it means to hire coaches hoping they’ll grow into the role. I especially don’t know who thought this defense was supposed to have some talent. If anything I thought they’d be one of the worst in the league.

This defense has had 3 good games and 3 bad games. The bad games have come against the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ranking offenses in the NFL. Sounds about right for a defense with maybe 4 good players. If you think they suck, that’s cool, but it makes no sense to blame it all on the DC.

[Spartan92]

The only reason this defense looked anything decent is Brady fell off for some reason. This defense did not step up and clamp down the other team either got bored or the QB is hurting. Our defense may be worse than Hurts and that's saying a lot lolol

[1960]

I realize this is a hot take, but tonight I’m seeing a defense that’s doing enough against the best offense in the NFL to keep the team in the game. The offense is making things very tough on them.

Dude, we seem to be at odds on our takes which I chalk up to that I’m old and angry and you aren’t. But this defense has shown nothing given they were supposed to have some talent. In this league you don’t hire coaches hoping they will grow into the role.

[art vandelay]

I thought I’d never hate watching a defense as much as Billy Davis’s defense but here we are

I realize this is a hot take, but tonight I’m seeing a defense that’s doing enough against the best offense in the NFL to keep the team in the game. The offense is making things very tough on them.

[Spartan92]

Very Gym Shorts with very few adjustments in game or week to week

Fuck even Shvantz threw a blitz in there every once in a while

[ArkansasEagle]

Very Gym Shorts with very few adjustments in game or week to week

[Spartan92]

I thought I’d never hate watching a defense as much as Billy Davis’s defense but here we are

Right. It's nuts that's why I said this may be worse to watch than last year. This just seems completely incompetent top to bottom.