Talking heads RE: Foles & tag

[Ground_Meat]

There are some that seem to think he could get the franchise tag AND the Iggs keep him.

Am I missing something here? 25 mil for a backup QB in an off season where they have very little money?

[Greenstealth]

I watched a former gm say foles was worth two firsts after the sb...

[Ground_Meat]

I watched a former gm say foles was worth two firsts after the sb...

Right, that’s if they trade him. Surely Howie is wise enough to make sure he’s got a suitor before applying the tag, no?

[Greenstealth]

I've had this same discussion at length on here. If I were a suitor why would I give up draft capital to get him? To avoid a bidding war? I don't see it. I could be wrong but I think they'd have to be under the cap with enough room to put the tag in place so they'd need to free up cash. Tagging a player just to trade wasnt supposed to be allowed (although the pats did it with Cassell) ...and now I just read that apparently tagging and trading is ok (per schefter). To top all of that off whatever the potential suitor would be giving up would have to be better than the comp pick they'd be getting. So no, I don't see them tagging foles and keeping him.

[Ground_Meat]

I agree with your assessment, but why go through all this...knowing full-well that he’d pay $2 mil to opt out?

[bobbyuk]

The only way I would see this happening is if they decided to do the unthinkable—keep Foles, negotiate a multi year contract with him and trade Wentz to the highest bidder. Foles is proven in this offense—took the organisation on 3 playoff runs under 2 different coaches in Philly. And maybe all of that noise about Wentz has them rethinking things.

[06hawkalum]

Damn it...I misread the thread title as "Talking Heads Reunion" and got excited.

That would be sick!

[Mr. Triple Dip]

The only way I would see this happening is if they decided to do the unthinkable—keep Foles, negotiate a multi year contract with him and trade Wentz to the highest bidder. Foles is proven in this offense—took the organisation on 3 playoff runs under 2 different coaches in Philly. And maybe all of that noise about Wentz has them rethinking things.

Maybe a mix? Tag and keep Foles - he'd be an expensive backup but they've always said they want to invest heavy in the QB position.

Evaluate Wentz in 2019 JUST to make sure hes the guy. If Wentz does enough to prove that then they do the Foles song and dance next offseason and chalk up the 25 million as very expensive insurance they didn't need. If Wentz does not return to form they can consider the unthinkable scenario you've mentioned of keeping Foles and moving on from Wentz.

[Ground_Meat]

Maybe a mix? Tag and keep Foles - he'd be an expensive backup but they've always said they want to invest heavy in the QB position.

Evaluate Wentz in 2019 JUST to make sure hes the guy. If Wentz does enough to prove that then they do the Foles song and dance next offseason and chalk up the 25 million as very expensive insurance they didn't need. If Wentz does not return to form they can consider the unthinkable scenario you've mentioned of keeping Foles and moving on from Wentz.

This is exactly my original point. They don’t have the luxury of having tons of cap space for this kind of play.

[art vandelay]

Tagging and keeping Foles seems like the one thing that can't and won't happen. If they really want to keep Foles, I think they'd be better off just offering him a contract.

[thegodfather]

There are some that seem to think he could get the franchise tag AND the Iggs keep him.

Am I missing something here? 25 mil for a backup QB in an off season where they have very little money?

IF they franchise him that means they have a deal in place with someone. They will not franchise him unless they do. I am sure Nick, the Eagles and Jags have talked and if all are in for him going there then this keeps them from getting into a pissing match with another team and gets the Eagles a pick whatever it may be. I would think its a 2 or 3.

[Drama Queen]

Everyone is making this to complicated.

The Eagles can tag Foles and keep him. They’ll just need to restructure or terminate other contracts to get under the salary cap by 3/15/19.

The Eagles aren’t going to bluff. Other teams have been informed knowing the Eagles intention to keep Foles as opposed to just letting him walk.

If teams want Foles, they’ll need to trade for him. It’s that simple.

The PTF article last month suggested that Foles fight the Eagles if they tag and trade. Here is th the CBA language:
“Article 4, Section 8, subsection (b) of the Collective Bargaining Agreement states as follows: “A Club extending a Required Tender must, for so long as that Tender is extended, have a good faith intention to employ the player receiving the Tender at the Tender compensation level during the upcoming season.”

Does anyone really think Foles is going to challenge the Eagles good faith intention of keeping him? Foles will simply agree to a trade knowing he was able to choose the team he wanted to go to. How in the hell will anyone prove that the Eagles didn’t have a good faith intention of keeping Foles, especially if they restructure contracts and keep him beyond the 3/1519 deadline. The Eagles have always been consistent by place the highest regard on the QB group since Peterson has been a coach. So good luck to anyone who challenges them.

With all of this in mind, will a trade take place? I’ve been very consistent in suggesting that the Eagles, Foles and another team have already found a mutual interest in doing so.

I’ve also explained why the Eagles were going to tag Foles and why he would decline, and why the franchise tag will come, and why a trade is close to certain.

We can talk about it some more though. It’s an unusual situation

[Greenstealth]

Lol

[Ground_Meat]

You are absolutely correct that they can get under the salary and probably make this work. In doing so, they will cut vital pieces of this team and strap themselves for signing anyone else. How does this make sense?

[Greenstealth]

"everyone is making this to complicated" and make that post