See ya, Gabe!

[BigSlizz]

I don't feel that way. I don't know how anyone could. I feel like the past two years were their window to get to the postseason and see what happens, but now they've yielded eastern supremacy to the Braves.

[rothdawg]

What would you think about Joe Girardi? I'd hate Showalter. Madden is fine for a couple years, but the teams he inherits and eventually ruins are much better than this one.

I'd prefer him to Showalter for sure, but I think he's going to the Mets. I'm just so discouraged by the organization that I don't think the manager matters much. They're so far behind the Braves, Nationals and even the Mets. The farm system is dreck, they can't assess talent in Latin America, they can't develop talent at any level and they got an owner who seems to be taking cue from WIP.

Edit to Add: I'm not sure why Madden or Girardi would want to come here over other vacancies, considering the FO already invited back 7 coaches for next season. The organization is ass backwards.

[art vandelay]

I also feel this way.