Is it true? Do you remember where you were when JFK was shot?

[Eagle Road]

Policies have always been one year, haven't they?

So, you are just going to avoid the real question I asked, so I will ask it again,

WHERE IS ALL THE EXTRA MONEY GOING?

[Maniac]

Some of it is demographics - aging baby boomers - combined with increasing the high risk pool by making insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions. But you may be in that pool one day. Think about the big picture.

[IronEagle]

So, you are just going to avoid the real question I asked, so I will ask it again,

WHERE IS ALL THE EXTRA MONEY GOING?

It's going to the same place it was going before.

[Eagle Road]

Some of it is demographics - aging baby boomers - combined with increasing the high risk pool by making insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions. But you may be in that pool one day. Think about the big picture.

I AM looking at the big picture, as I am already dealing with this, I hope that all of you that have work subsidized health care are going to be looking at the big picture, next year, when the other shoe drops.

[harls]

OK, let's say you are right, and the insurance companies are taking a hit, I also think we have all heard of providers having to sign on for less money, in fact we will lose about a 1/3 of our specialists out here that are unwilling to sign on.

Combine that, with a LOT of us paying more, so answer me this, WERE IS ALL THIS EXTRA MONEY GOING?

And don't give me any crap about the older people in the system, you have seen the increase numbers on the Medi-care side, right?

I am sure some of the extra money is going to treat people that could not get insurance before. My wife was denied insurance on multiple occasions before. With ACA she can not be denied.

As I have said before we won't know what the ACA willbe until it is in practice for a while. Most of the misinformation on both sides will be proven wrong. It won't be for another year or two till we can make an informed decision.

[Eagle Road]

It's going to the same place it was going before.

But, but, but, I was told that my rates would go down, my plan would be better, and my costs would be cheaper, are you telling me I was lied to?

Say it's not true.

[harls]

But, but, but, I was told that my rates would go down, my plan would be bette,r and my costs would be cheaper, are you telling me I was lied to?

Say it's not true.

A politician spoke of course you were lied to. But to act like Obama is the first president that lied to you or that this is even the biggest lie told by a president is absurd.

[Eagle Road]

I am sure some of the extra money is going to treat people that could not get insurance before. My wife was denied insurance on multiple occasions before. With ACA she can not be denied.

As I have said before we won't know what the ACA willbe until it is in practice for a while. Most of the misinformation on both sides will be proven wrong. It won't be for another year or two till we can make an informed decision.

Believe me Harls, I understand this, and the old system was far from perfect, all I am saying is this is NOT what was sold, if all of this crap had come out two years ago, do you really believe that this "law" would have passed as written?

[IronEagle]

But, but, but, I was told that my rates would go down, my plan would be better, and my costs would be cheaper, are you telling me I was lied to?

Say it's not true.

Same as it ever was.

I'm still trying to figure out what you are bitching about. Some people who didn't have health care before have it now?

You want healthy people to continue to subside your wife's treatment? In my mind that is what insurance is about..

I don't mind paying a bit more so your wife has coverage, but it sounds like you have a big problem paying to take care of me when I get sick.

[Eagle Road]

A politician spoke of course you were lied to. But to act like Obama is the first president that lied to you or that this is even the biggest lie told by a president is absurd.

I think misrepresenting a bill, that is turned into a law, that affects EVERY SINGLE LIVING PERSON in this country is a pretty damn big deal.

[harls]

Believe me Harls, I understand this, and the old system was far from perfect, all I am saying is this is NOT what was sold, if all of this crap had come out two years ago, do you really believe that this "law" would have passed as written?

Most likely yes. It was passed on partisanship. Not because there was mass support from america. You need to remember the poloticians couldn't care less about us. They want us to fight over this shit so they can keep collecting their legal bribes to pass the laws corporations want passed.

[Eagle Road]

Same as it ever was.

I'm still trying to figure out what you are bitching about. Some people who didn't have health care before have it now?

Your right, I should just set in the corner and keep my mouth shut and not complain one bit as the Government should be able to do whatever they want with no responsibility for their actions.


Congratulations, I think we are almost there.

[Eagle Road]

Most likely yes. It was passed on partisanship. Not because there was mass support from america. You need to remember the poloticians couldn't care less about us. They want us to fight over this shit so they can keep collecting their legal bribes to pass the laws corporations want passed.

This I can agree with.

[IronEagle]

Your right, I should just set in the corner and keep my mouth shut and not complain one bit as the Government should be able to do whatever they want with no responsibility for their actions.


Congratulations, I think we are almost there.

Sounds like you want a Free Ride.

[Maniac]

the old system was totally fkkked. the new system is imperfect but at least its something to build on. i'm glad it passed. now lets make it better.