People: The guy is going to learn and get BETTER. It's not over for this guy.
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Originally posted by Brandonn View PostAt this point its backlash against deification. You should be allowed to see his faults without the circle jerk pulling a Spanish Inquisition.
YOUR dumb point was that he could easily be replaced, which is not true. Look how many QB's he outperformed as a young, unpolished player in his first season with any real starts. Alex Smith, Andy Dalton, Kaepernick, Matt Ryan, Eli Manning and Flacco are all starting QB's in this league that wish they had a season like Foles. Some of those guys have WAY more weapons and far better defenses to help bail them out.
Now considering the kind of commitment those teams have to those QB's, what makes you think that you can just turn around and replace Foles like it's no big deal? Are you kidding me? Do you really think that Kelly's offense is so revolutionary that you could just plug any QB in and it wouldn't miss a beat? Because I remember seeing this offense controlled by someone who didn't make good decisions and it looked awful."If I was racist in my opinion of QB's, I wouldn't have a dog named Donovan." - downundermike
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Peyton, Brady, Luck, Brees, Rodgers and Wilson are the QBs I personally would take over Foles in any offense.
In this offense, I'd add Cam and Kap to guys I would rather have. They may not be as accurate or take as few risks as Foles, but they both are still good with their arms and deadly with their legs which makes them a better fit for Chip, again, IMO.
IMO Rivers and Foles are neck and neck, just based off the years they had. I know Rivers is a douche, but the guy played some ball this year.
Don't take this as me downplaying Foles or the season he had. I was not a believer at first, but the kid won me over. That doesn't mean that there still can't be other QBs who I think are better or fit better in our offense.
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Originally posted by Sect 236 View PostKap really doesn't suck. He's legit.
The way he plays? He doesn't play like RGIII or Vick. He takes off at the right time, not all the time.
I mean, agree to disagree, but I think the kid is one hell of a talent.
Foles WAS doing the "take off at the right time" thing but in two straight games he stopped doing that looking for a pass downfield (the same thing that I criticized Vick, and especially late-career McNabb for doing). that's when the sacks started stacking up.
for me, it's not about the stats (just as long as you aren't Eli bad). Foles seems to be an adaptable QB. Hopefully he will adapt in this way going forward. otherwise, Eagles will gonna get a lot of pretty wins but no "big" ones.
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