Nurtisystem,

[Riccardo]

Ref is a medical science flat-earther

He believes diet is 100% responsible for disease.

[TerpEagle]

anyone on here tried it? How where your results?

It's good because it gives you structure to follow. If you do it, you need to use it's app or something like MyFitnessPal and monitor your calories, fat, protein and carbs as well.

Keeping those 4 things within certain ranges is what really does the trick - Nutrisystem is just a organization tool.

[TerpEagle]

Delete the exercise piece from your weight loss plan. Exercise barely burns any calories. Look it up. If you run 3 miles, at 10 minutes a mile, you're only going to burn 450 calories. That's A LOT of exercise that you would have to do DAILY just to burn a lousy 450 calories. Do you know how easy it is to ingest 450 calories? Not only that but it would be BORING running 3 miles a day, 7 days a week. Now I'm not saying you shouldn't exercise. I'm just saying that you should simplify the process of losing weight by taking the exercise piece out of it. OK, now what you SHOULD do. Limit your calories to 1500 or less per day. Don't worry. At first it will be difficult to only eat that many calories. You will get used to it after about 2 weeks. Now, cut out practically all carbs and high fat (high calorie) foods (like fried foods). If you want a hamburger, have it. Just do it in moderation and don't have french fries with it. Don't eliminate anything from your diet. Just know how many calories it is and then make the right choices the rest of the day to keep yourself at 1500 calories or less. The problem with these Nutrisystem diets is THEY DO EVERYTHING FOR YOU. You never learn to DO IT FOR YOURSELF. In order to lose the weight AND KEEP IT OFF, you have to learn to do it for yourself and change your eating HABITS. Also, learn to CONCENTRATE on eating. Don't eat while you're watching TV or surfing this message board. If you eat while watching TV, you don't realize that you've eaten and then you'll want to eat again.

1500 calories may be too low for him. It depends on his current weight and the rate we wants to lose. But you're correct in that nutrition and caloric intake are what matter more. There are calculators (including MyFitnessPal) that will help you determine your resting metabolic rate and how many calories you need to maintain vs. losing or gaining weight.

Exercise gives you the ability to eat/drink more. But you need to find exercise that you enjoy and won't grow tired of.

[Eagle Road]

It's good because it gives you structure to follow. If you do it, you need to use it's app or something like MyFitnessPal and monitor your calories, fat, protein and carbs as well.

Keeping those 4 things within certain ranges is what really does the trick - Nutrisystem is just a organization tool.

Yeah Terp, that's pretty much how I am using it, as I said, I believe portion control was/is my biggest issue and by using prepackaged portion sizes I don't have to guess what I am doing.

Not saying this is going to be a long term diet plan, I am just trying it to see if I can drop a quick 30 pounds that would get me a little more energy and motivation to keep going without continuing to buy the system.

You guys are close, my meals come up to about 1600 cal. a day.

[Eagle Road]

Well just a follow up to all those who gave some good advice and well wishes, dropped another 4 pounds this week, so down to 285.

I knew it would taper off in the second week so I'm still happy, even 20 pounds seems to make a big difference.

From here on out if I could just lose a couple of pounds ever week I would be happy.

[The Ref]

Keys to losing weight...
Calories in / Calories out
Lift heavy things at least 3 times a week
Limit your carb intake. The magic number if grams is different for some than it is for others
High intensity Interval Training
Intermittent Fasting

Eating natural foods is also important. Limit processed crap and dont overdo it with the sodium. Lean meats, seafood, leafy greens, nutrient dense foods. Avoid grains, dairy, sugar.

Follow this and the weight will fly off you

Sorry. Eliminating grains entirely is the worst nutritional advice anybody can give unless a person has celiac disease, which is rare. There isn't a single bonafide nutritionist, with an MD and PHD surrounding their name, who would agree that eliminating grains entirely is a good idea. Eliminating processed grains, like white rice, white bread, and white pasta, yes. Whole grains in general... really, really bad idea!

[The Ref]

He believes diet is 100% responsible for disease.

That's idiotic if this is your takeaway. Not surprised.

[The Ref]

Of course modern medicine had absolutely nothing to do with the median life span increase (despite also seeing increases in obesity, cancer, diabetes, etc).

I'm not in total agreement with the motivation behind Paleo, but I do share much of its philosophy regarding what food is valuable to the human metabolism. Lean meat, non-starchy veggies, citrus fruit, berries and seeds are all good, healthy fuel. Pop tarts, pasta, and sugary drinks? Not so much.

Processed grains... bad. Whole grains... good. It's not complicated.

Grains have been overly refined -- white rice only started about 150 years ago. White over-refined flour around the 1700's.

There's a lot of human history that consumed whole grains.

Processed sugar is always a bad idea. But if people want to consume sugar in moderation it isn't going to hurt them. My advice is to just be sensible. But being sensible is considered idiotic in these parts.

[Susquehanna Birder]

Grains, whole or not, is over rated and over eaten. There is a whole marketing effort aimed at assuring people that whole grain is healthy. That alone leads me to question it's value.

[harls]

I watched Forks over Knives about 6 months or so ago and decided to give it a try. It basically says to eat only whole plant foods. Non processed and plant based. They say to try it for 30 days and see how you feel. I felt so good I stuck with it. I am down about 80 lbs. I am off my blood pressure meds off my allergy meds. I sleep less and have more energy.

I am not going to say you need to do this. Everyone is different. I would recommend watching the show and listen to what they say and consider it.

There are plenty of recipes you can make that follow this diet plan that people would not know are not meat. I make burgers that I have given to many people that they do not know do not have meat in them . I have had lasagna that you would never know was vegan. It has not been nearly the change in taste that you would think.

[harls]

Grains, whole or not, is over rated and over eaten. There is a whole marketing effort aimed at assuring people that whole grain is healthy. That alone leads me to question it's value.

Grains themselves are not bad as long as it is not the main staple of your diet. In moderation whole grains are fine.

[Eagle Road]

I watched Forks over Knives about 6 months or so ago and decided to give it a try. It basically says to eat only whole plant foods. Non processed and plant based. They say to try it for 30 days and see how you feel. I felt so good I stuck with it. I am down about 80 lbs. I am off my blood pressure meds off my allergy meds. I sleep less and have more energy.

I am not going to say you need to do this. Everyone is different. I would recommend watching the show and listen to what they say and consider it.

There are plenty of recipes you can make that follow this diet plan that people would not know are not meat. I make burgers that I have given to many people that they do not know do not have meat in them . I have had lasagna that you would never know was vegan. It has not been nearly the change in taste that you would think.

Sounds great H, I'll check it out.

[harls]

Sounds great H, I'll check it out.

Many places you can see it for free. It is usually on netflix if you have that or if you go to their website they stream it there for free.