Dallass sportscaster has a shocking reaction to Sam announcing he's gay

[Drama Queen]

I saw a few of Riccardo's performances. The donkeys usually handed a few pesos with their mouths to Riccardo in the beginning... but with all of the laughter, it may have been staged.

[slag]

JESUS (pun intended)

The only fucking complication here is you trying to distinguish respect for a civil right by an idiotic reference to choice versus genetics.

Choice is irrelevant to respect for a civil right.

Enough already.

[Riccardo]

Hahah

I really got you with that penis fillet comment, didn't I??

[Neumans own]

How can it still be look upon as courageous?

Sexuality should not.define us you are correct. But as long as sexuality determines what rights you have. As long as we as a nation treat homosexuals as second class citizens it
Will be lookedat ascuragious when someone risks safety and financial security to pave the wY towards acceptance for others.

Sams seems to be a smart young man, Homosexuality IMO is not a choice and I am not smart enough to understand the science behind genetics or environment behind what makes a person choose their sexuality any more so then I love "curvy redheads".

There is no "buts" just an understanding of what it is like to be discriminated against as a child and later in life because of my disability. Sams enjoyed a great education and was going to be at worst a 5th round pick and have an average career in the NFL.

Gay Rights and the taboo's associated with it are not going to change because he came out, that is all I am saying.

[TerpEagle]

JESUS (pun intended)

The only fucking complication here is you trying to distinguish respect for a civil right by an idiotic reference to choice versus genetics.

Choice is irrelevant to respect for a civil right.

Enough already.

Bullshit. Religion is the only civil right afforded based on choice and because we have choice, we can choose to disagree with another's religion without infringing on their rights. You can't discriminate based on religion, such as refusing service (for the most part although certain religious rituals have rules regarding participation) or hiring/firing any employee. But you can disagree and you can question behavior due to that choice.

Civil rights with regard to race and sex are afforded based on birth without choice. You can't question someone's race or sex. There is nothing to question - it's an inherent trait. You can't discriminate based on race or sex. Sexual orientation falls in line with this set of rights. There is nothing to disagree with.

That is, of course, unless one's chosen religion, politics or set of values say he/she can disagree with someone's lack of choice in those traits. That's how slavery and oppression of women was and continues to be justified. Oppression of a non-choice is nothing like questioning someone's religious belief. Not even close.

And, STILL, this is a false comparison. Because Tebow was mocked for his football play - the religion aspect is simply a sideshow that allowed the mockery to bloom because it increased his popularity/infamy.

[TerpEagle]

Sams seems to be a smart young man, Homosexuality IMO is not a choice and I am not smart enough to understand the science behind genetics or environment behind what makes a person choose their sexuality any more so then I love "curvy redheads".

There is no "buts" just an understanding of what it is like to be discriminated against as a child and later in life because of my disability. Sams enjoyed a great education and was going to be at worst a 5th round pick and have an average career in the NFL.

Gay Rights and the taboo's associated with it are not going to change because he came out, that is all I am saying.

Being the first always requires courage. There is no precedent for how society in general nor the NFL will react because he is the first. For everyone who says it shouldn't matter - they're right. But for many people is does matter.

The best outcome of all of this would be a "ho-hum" reaction because it would mean that for most people it's no big deal. But immediately after he came out publicly, there was blow back of how he'll be a distraction, his draft stock will fall, what do players think, etc. That alone says that it's a big moment.

[Neumans own]

you make a good point with Miami and the hazing...

Anyone who opens themselves to public perception engages in 'marketing.' To this point, any "Gay" NFL players (not sure why the need for quotations) have felt compelled to 'market' themselves as straight. Now we've got a guy who is finally willing to 'market' himself as gay. It is a big deal because he's doing what others haven't had the courage to do thus far.

I think the recent peeks into the locker-room culture in Miami and Minnesota (the Chris Kluwe fiasco) validates Sam's desire to be open and public in order to allow clubs who'd rather avoid a very touchy subject do so with eyes open.

He's not Jackie Robinson, but he is someone who is going to make life easier for others in the future. Call it self-promotion if you want, but the NFL is all about self-promotion, and his brand of self-promotion is providing a version of role model that is completely lacking in the modern NFL. Christian kids who want to play football have lots of examples to look up to. Gay kids who want to play football do not.

I understand the the idea of role models. Maybe Sams came out to the world because of the hazing in Miami....

[harls]

Civil rights with regard to race and sex are afforded based on birth without choice. You can't question someone's race or sex. There is nothing to question - it's an inherent trait. You can't discriminate based on race or sex. Sexual orientation falls in line with this set of rights. There is nothing to disagree with.

The problem with this as of today it is legal to discriminate against gays. They should be held under these same standards and have the same rights but they do not.

[Drama Queen]

I would just like to say that you sucking dick is inherently abnormal. Your shit is wired wrong.

[harls]

Sams seems to be a smart young man, Homosexuality IMO is not a choice and I am not smart enough to understand the science behind genetics or environment behind what makes a person choose their sexuality any more so then I love "curvy redheads".

There is no "buts" just an understanding of what it is like to be discriminated against as a child and later in life because of my disability. Sams enjoyed a great education and was going to be at worst a 5th round pick and have an average career in the NFL.

Gay Rights and the taboo's associated with it are not going to change because he came out, that is all I am saying.

Sam coming out won't magicaly change magically open doors for Gays overnight. But if noone who is gay comes out and puts themself out there they will never gain acceptance. It is curagious as he risks financial security, puts himself out there for ridicule based off of who he is so that he can be true to who he is. And hopefully make things a little easier for the next gay football player to admit it and make it easier for people in general to accept gays.

[DJCon57]

http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/s...im-tebow-faith

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...broncos-275108

Lions Linebacker Stephen Tulloch and the SNL are now "the media"

K.

[slag]

Show me where I remotely suggested he isn't tolerant of anything.

EDITED TO ADD: Nice strawman though.

[Melchior]

I'm just waiting for Tebow to do a Walmart commercial.

[Dim Bulb]

Show me where I remotely suggested he isn't tolerant of anything.

EDITED TO ADD: Nice strawman though.

"On the other hand, it's pretty clear that you feel tolerance of sexual preference is more important than tolerance of religious belief."

Isn't this comparison intended to denigrate his tolerance of religious beliefs? Linguistically doesn't any comparison of this kind inherently ascribe lesser value to one belief over the other?

I don't care mind you, one way or the other. It just seems like you are not owning up to what appears to be the comparison you are making. Just keeping it real in a real way with reality and justice for all.

[Riccardo]

Good point

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/03/...ow-a-bad-idea/

MSNBC mocked him too, but you make a good point - neither of these outlets are the media either...