The myth of double coverage

[Melchior]

I hate the move, but where are you guys getting this DJax drew double-teams argument?

Very few receivers are ever truly double-teamed. Most teams played a lot of Man Free (man coverage with a single high safety) against the Eagles and kept the other safety in the box.

Now, in Cover 2, he may pull a safety away and open up the seams, but that's typical of any starting WR.

They actually worked pretty hard to move Jackson around and get him a clean release for crossing routes. Keenan Lewis did a really good job of jamming/pressing him in the Saints game.

At the end of the day, it's really McCoy who's opening things up.

[Maniac]

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[Susquehanna Birder]

One of the advantages of my endzone view is that it helps see a lot more of what's going on, coverage wise. I can't tell you the number of times that I screamed to get Jaccson the ball, because the "double coverage" safety was playing too deep, or they had not fully committed to his side.

I don't argue Jaccson's talent. But I don't think that losing him is the end of the world, particularly if a good deep threat receiver can be drafted.

[bk]

One of the advantages of my endzone view is that it helps see a lot more of what's going on, coverage wise. I can't tell you the number of times that I screamed to get Jaccson the ball, because the "double coverage" safety was playing too deep, or they had not fully committed to his side.

I don't argue Jaccson's talent. But I don't think that losing him is the end of the world, particularly if a good deep threat receiver can be drafted.

That's the thing: straight up double coverage in the 'playground' sense may not exist, but jaccson being on the field caused players other than the cornerback to adjust their position on the field to account for him. Which of course put them in a more advantageous position for other players on offense.

[Irish George]

One of the dumbest posts from a football perspective I have ever read on this board

I hate the move, but where are you guys getting this DJax drew double-teams argument?

Very few receivers are ever truly double-teamed. Most teams played a lot of Man Free (man coverage with a single high safety) against the Eagles and kept the other safety in the box.

Now, in Cover 2, he may pull a safety away and open up the seams, but that's typical of any starting WR.

They actually worked pretty hard to move Jackson around and get him a clean release for crossing routes. Keenan Lewis did a really good job of jamming/pressing him in the Saints game.

At the end of the day, it's really McCoy who's opening things up.

Keep talking semantics about what constitutes a double team while I remind you of the simple fact that DeSean Jackson almost never can be covered one-on-one. He not only gets open, he gets WIDE OPEN.

[Eagle In Ohio]

Agreed on tht point about DeSean

Keep talking semantics about what constitutes a double team while I remind you of the simple fact that DeSean Jackson almost never can be covered one-on-one. He not only gets open, he gets WIDE OPEN.

How many times might we see this ? First play of the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn7uTh_p2oQ

[JuTMSY4]

"Guys don’t get double-teamed in this league," explained Maclin. "There’s one guy in the league that gets double-teamed, and that’s Calvin Johnson on the goal line. Guys don’t get double-teamed in this league. If you went out there and you weren’t able to make plays you wouldn’t be out there. To have him on the field and being able to make plays is a plus for the offense, but at the same time, anybody that’s out there is (capable of making plays)."

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/s...01XVkYY3tV0.99

[Melchior]

Keep talking semantics about what constitutes a double team while I remind you of the simple fact that DeSean Jackson almost never can be covered one-on-one. He not only gets open, he gets WIDE OPEN.

It's not semantics. McCoy is the one pulling 8 men in to the box and giving the receivers one on one matchups. He is literally being double teamed.

The receivers benefit from that, and yeah, Jackson will scorch a lot of corners in one on one coverage. But when he goes up against better press corners, he's usually pretty quiet.

Like I said, I'm not happy about the move either, but I'm not going to pretend that he was Calvin Johnson.

[Irish George]

why would you pretend he was big and physical

the point stands that he gets wide open virtually every time when in single coverage.

Of course a great running game makes things better.

Just as a great receiver made Foles better and will make RGIII better.

Please stop with the straw arguments.

[J_Cuz31]

Have you really seen the eagles opponents stack eight in the box that much? I haven't.

[weizer]

Anybody fast can get open in single coverage

the point stands that he gets wide open virtually every time when in single coverage.

Of course a great running game makes things better.

Just as a great receiver made Foles better and will make RGIII better.

Please stop with the straw arguments.

What Melchoir is saying is where is the proof that he was consistently double teamed last season? This is what I was asking a week or so ago and gave up when nobody provided any.

[TerpEagle]

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/s...01XVkYY3tV0.99

Smear Campaign

[Irish George]

who fucking cares?

What Melchoir is saying is where is the proof that he was consistently double teamed last season? This is what I was asking a week or so ago and gave up when nobody provided any.

Wah wah...nobody gave me proof he was double covered...WHAT??? What difference does it make if he is wide open regardless...this much I do know...he is virtually impossible to cover one-on-one. and not "any fast guy" is putting up consistent numbers of a three-time Pro Bowler.

[weizer]

So

Wah wah...nobody gave me proof he was double covered...WHAT??? What difference does it make if he is wide open regardless...this much I do know...he is virtually impossible to cover one-on-one. and not "any fast guy" is putting up consistent numbers of a three-time Pro Bowler.

you just want people to believe all the shit your slinging with no proof? I admit teams shifted safeties his way from time to time for sure, but straight doubles, no way most could afford to do that with all the other weapons we had.

[bk]

What Melchoir is saying is where is the proof that he was consistently double teamed last season? This is what I was asking a week or so ago and gave up when nobody provided any.

Just by asking the question you're admitting you know little of general defensive formations. Show me proof that defenses allowed ONLY ONE cornerback to keep track of Jaccson without shifting other players to protect areas of the field. The doubleteam shit is semantics and you know it.

Edit: posted too late...