what could disappear!

[The Ref]

I'm not sure why you are turning this into US vs. China. but if you really feel that way, I would say the way to approach this is to find ways where is China loses if they build a new coal plant every month.

There are technological paths to improve upon a lot of things we do but there is no doubt the road down those paths are impeded at every step by those who benefit and profit from the way things currently are. They have no self-interest in improving things. In fact, typically they have a self-interest in maintaining the status quo because they are benefiting and profiting from it, even if there are ways things could be better.

Are you one of those people?

The difference between current China and the US is that China is aware that they have a problem and are aggressively pursuing green energy options as official policy. In fact, advancing green energy technology is boosting their economy. They're 2nd in the world, behind Germany, in producing photovoltaics.

In the US, we're still fighting off the deniers, like Riccardo.

[Drama Queen]

Hahaha!

[slag]

Where'd you hear that bull?

[PackWest]

Wasn't trying to turn it into a China vs, US issue, but it is well known that both China and India are by far some of the worlds greatest polluters, I only used China as an example, as it is the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.

If you actually doubted that man impacts the climate, it wouldn't matter how much the gorilla weighed, now would it ?

OR how many coal plants China fires up ?

You're happily full of shit and that's fine. But you aren't quite clever enough to conceal your real thoughts on the subject.
Practice your position-piece and try back another day.

Bring your A game, this is THE DEFINITIVE Eagles message board
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[Riccardo]

Good lord do you get all your "knowledge" from comic books?

US carbon dioxide emissions are decreasing, China is the worst polluter in the world and their emissions of CO2 are growing almost double digits annually. Yes they make a lot of solar panels and sell them to us. What a dope.

[Eagle Road]

If you actually doubted that man impacts the climate, it wouldn't matter how much the gorilla weighed, now would it ?

OR how many coal plants China fires up ?

You're happily full of shit and that's fine. But you aren't quite clever enough to conceal your real thoughts on the subject.
Practice your position-piece and try back another day.

Bring your A game, this is THE DEFINITIVE Eagles message board
.

So, another jackass that thinks he knows me, lol If I didn't care about any of it then tell me why I have invested well over a million dollars in a whole fleet of clean burn diesel trucks?

Why did I add another 100,000 dollars in electric APU's so that my drivers would not idle the trucks for heat of A/C?

Why have we equipped my shop with a waste oil burning furnace with particulate filters, so that we not only have to dispose of waste oil but we also don't have to use any other form of energy to heat the building?

Why do I walk rather than drive to and from work most days?

Now who is full of shit?, go crawl back under your rock.

[Riccardo]

Yeah you're right, Al Gore's predictions were money

I've stated many times on this board that there is a global warming trend

[Riccardo]

yep there are plenty of options

And fortunately more use of natural gas instead of coal is holding us over (and lowering co2 emissions) until these new technologies mature

[headknocker]

I didn't know anyone argues that global warming isn't real, the argument is whether it is man made or not and even if you sell your car and start riding a horse and burning candles if the trend will change.


BTW, can you still see much of the concrete ship off Cape May, or is it all gone It's been twenty some years since I have been there.

Our family went to Cape May Point on Mother's Day and the concrete ship is still very much there. The concrete war bunker near the state park is firmly on the beach as well. Cape May Point is a gem.

[CbEagle]

I guess his figures forgot to include the one a month coal fired power generating plants coming online.

[Eagle Road]

Our family went to Cape May Point on Mother's Day and the concrete ship is still very much there. The concrete war bunker near the state park is firmly on the beach as well. Cape May Point is a gem.

Thanks for that HK, glad someone hear actually reads and answers an honest question.


Yeah, it's a great area, spent many a weekend down there in my youth, IF I remember right weren't there some rotating gun turrets that were out in the water in front of that bunker, or am I thinking of someplace else? Sandy Hook maybe?

[Two Gap Penetrator]

OMG you are a smart man

Cornell is a great school. I knew there was a reason I liked you. Just be careful. You're making too much sense for this board.

[Drama Queen]

So what are you saying? Its confusing?

Are trying to make a difference in your own little way, or is your investment influenced by the EPA, a department that you seem to detest and/or at odds with in the past.

[headknocker]

Thanks for that HK, glad someone hear actually reads and answers an honest question.


Yeah, it's a great area, spent many a weekend down there in my youth, IF I remember right weren't there some rotating gun turrets that were out in the water in front of that bunker, or am I thinking of someplace else? Sandy Hook maybe?

Sorry, I can't help you with that answer. We had been to the town of Cape May a ton of times over the years but we had never gone down to the Point until last summer so last Sunday was just our third time being there.

The Point beach near the state park is a hidden gem....pristine, quiet, no lifeguards, and free. I think we're gonna get there early one morning this summer and just relax for the day to enjoy that awesome view of the ocean...it's just different down there.

[Raptor]

Burn Baybee Burn

Nuke, solar and wind all should play a part. Also more tidal/hydro;

The problem I see is current nuke technology is highly polluting as well-- just not to the atmosphere. We can contain it, but we really don't know how to deal with it.

We really need a workable fusion reactor design, IMO.

..a bigger problem underlying all of this besides those resisting the facts is population growth.

We are repeating a pattern of grow and crash, the archeological records have plenty of evidence.