This Navy Seal Coming out about killing UBL

[TerpEagle]

Sorry, but your wrong, I think Snowden should be given a damn medal. Sorry that I don't fit your broad based "Conservation Description"

Even though I went nuclear, the point is that freedom always has risk.

Especially freedom of knowledge and information, but without it we're just cattle.

Bondage is safer than liberty.

That's why freedom is a fucking bitch.

[Eagle Road]

Even though I went nuclear, the point is that freedom always has risk.

Especially freedom of knowledge and information, but without it we're just cattle.

Bondage is safer than liberty.

That's why freedom is a fucking bitch.

I just get a kick out of a small percentage of you guys on here that continue to try and paint me in a corner with the overused Conservative hyperbole, only to find out later, it doesn't fit.

[TerpEagle]

Because I'm not against the things I listed, YOU have a problem with reading comprehension, I merely listed a number of instances that showcased how the media has changed over the years (which of course you conveniently left out of your response quote).




But good try.

Well you need to specify what you mean by media. Journalism? News programs? What exactly?

Information has always been there. Widespread access to information is what has changed and been improved since the dawn of civilization.

But that just mean information is more free than it was before because there is more access. I don't think that says much about the media.

Has the increase of the ability to access information increased "media outlets" ? Yes. Have media outlets become more specialized over time? Yes.

But tactics and goals of the media aren't different. There are and have always been media outlets that have more or less bias. Now there are just more of them.

[Eagle Road]

[QUOTE=TerpEagle;1784312]Well you need to specify what you mean by media.








OR, maybe you just need to stop trying to find umbrage with everything just to pick a fight?

[TerpEagle]

OR, maybe you just need to stop trying to find umbrage with everything just to pick a fight?

You didn't specify in your post whether that collateral damage due to the increase in access to information was good/bad/both so I did jump the gun there.

I inferred that you saw it as a negative. You did imply that it was lunacy to have that information available. That is where I took umbrage.

To answer your original question, I don't think it has anything to do with conservative vs. liberal media. There is growth in information regardless of political leaning. And biased media outlets will use that information as they see fit. However, I don't think the "media" is the root cause. They're just beneficiaries of the fact that there is more to discuss and investigate.

Better there is too much information that too little, even with the risks, in my opinion.

[Dim Bulb]

But you're out there in freaking Kansas!

I just get a kick out of a small percentage of you guys on here that continue to try and paint me in a corner with the overused Conservative hyperbole, only to find out later, it doesn't fit.

You must be a wingnut. Unless you come from Manhattan in which case you are a different kind of wingnut.

How'd this thread get Overbrooked into Snowden talk?

[Eagle Road]

You didn't specify in your post whether that collateral damage due to the increase in access to information was good/bad/both so I did jump the gun there.

I inferred that you saw it as a negative. You did imply that it was lunacy to have that information available. That is where I took umbrage.

To answer your original question, I don't think it has anything to do with conservative vs. liberal media. There is growth in information regardless of political leaning. And biased media outlets will use that information as they see fit. However, I don't think the "media" is the root cause. They're just beneficiaries of the fact that there is more to discuss and investigate.

Better there is too much information that too little, even with the risks, in my opinion.

Fair enough, and I can't say I disagree with your last statement.


The only real issue I have with the media is that it has become more about the feeding frenzy to sell "papers" (all media in general) than it is about information.


In fact, I will go one further, you don't REALLY get "information" from a lot of media outlets anymore, what you get is some talking heads OPINION on what that information is or how you should view it.


I would rather have the raw numbers and data, I can take it from there, I don't need some TV personality to make it a fairytale story for me.


Because now all you have is LIV (Low Information Voters) spouting out snippets or out takes (cliff note if you will) of somebody else's opinion, they are clueless about the real facts of the story, and that C, is ALL on the media and their want/need to sell information, by packaging it into a he said she said, this side against that side, simply put, they make more money, it's become a side show of sorts.






[QUOTE=Dim Bulb;1784315]You must be a wingnut. Unless you come from Manhattan in which case you are a different kind of wingnut.


Been a lot of places, seen a lot of things, this just happens to be where I call home, LOL


Colorado, Sheesh!!!!:D

[McCarthy12]

Youmadbro? It was interesting when it was on point. Got less interesting when I could see you were about to turn it into 60 posts of 10,000 word essays.

[Dim Bulb]

yup

Bwahaha... Big Twelve shit dies hard, don't it?

[Eagle Road]

Bwahaha... Big Twelve shit dies hard, don't it?

Haha, yeah Dimmy, I've spent most of my life on the road going from big city to big city and dealing with people, traffic and weather.


Now I sit here on the weekend and put both feet up on the porch railing and watch BOTH cars drive by,






LOVE IT!!!!!

[Dim Bulb]

We got about 9 inches in my back yard this am

Haha, yeah Dimmy, I've spent most of my life on the road going from big city to big city and dealing with people, traffic and weather.


Now I sit here on the weekend and put both feet up on the porch railing and watch BOTH cars drive by,






LOVE IT!!!!!

Commuting down to Denver was a bitch.

[TerpEagle]

Fair enough, and I can't say I disagree with your last statement.


The only real issue I have with the media is that it has become more about the feeding frenzy to sell "papers" (all media in general) than it is about information.


In fact, I will go one further, you don't REALLY get "information" from a lot of media outlets anymore, what you get is some talking heads OPINION on what that information is or how you should view it.


I would rather have the raw numbers and data, I can take it from there, I don't need some TV personality to make it a fairytale story for me.


Because now all you have is LIV (Low Information Voters) spouting out snippets or out takes (cliff note if you will) of somebody else's opinion, they are clueless about the real facts of the story, and that C, is ALL on the media and their want/need to sell information, by packaging it into a he said she said, this side against that side, simply put, they make more money, it's become a side show of sorts.

A large portion (if not all) of the media has always been out to sell papers. Again, I think it's more a fact that there are more outlets now and more access to them. 30+ years ago you had 3 major TV networks and print journalism was thriving because it was the cheapest, most accessible way to get information. They were still trying to sell papers (along with shampoo, cigarettes, cars, etc.) back then.

Now, there are just faster and easier ways to get the information. It's in increase in overall volume but not intent. Now, with that increase in volume is the increase in biased outlets that offer opinion.

Still, with all that, you get access to raw numbers and data that you didn't have before - at least not without significantly more effort and a larger time requirement.

As for low information voters, has that changed? Perhaps, but in the past people were still spouting out what the media outlets told them. They just had fewer outlets to choose from and less freedom to make their opinions.

I'm not going to argue that there isn't a lot of opinion dressed up as "journalism". But in my opinion it's just part of the double edge sword of freedom of information.

Volume increases so there are more data but also more manipulation. At least you have more choices about where you get your data and manipulation.

Just like anything else that provides more freedom. It's an avenue for good and bad.

[TerpEagle]

Youmadbro? It was interesting when it was on point. Got less interesting when I could see you were about to turn it into 60 posts of 10,000 word essays.

Not really, but I'm not concerned where one sub-thread of a topic goes if it doesn't interest me.