anyone watch the Scientology doc?

[Overbrook]

I like my response better. More concise and to the point.

That question and its premise proves the silliness of the idea.

Where do humans come from? From Creator X. Where does Creator X come from? Creator Y. Where does Creator Y come from? Well, duh Creator Z. Where does Creator Z come from? ETC.

This line of thought ends with 3 possible answers.

1) There is no answer and the loop goes on forever.

2) "Creator Z is THE CREATOR and just exists." (In which case, I say go back to scenario 1)

3) "I don't know." (Which again is the most rational answer)

When you say earthly religion, you mean divine creation is more plausible if aliens definitively don't exist?

If so, the existence of aliens has nothing to do with the plausibility of divine creation. Just because the idea that aliens may have put us here is more plausible than a being that was never created putting us here doesn't mean it's very likely.

The most plausible scenario is that we're here through evolutionary development of basic matter that creates the universe. That doesn't require the existence of any intelligent life or directed creation.

To try to understand the beginning of existence (as we perceive it) is absurd. Belief in magic (or Xenu or whatever) is just a coping mechanism in the face of that absurdity.

666

[hoo bleeds green]

And I believe in evolution but get stuck on the spontaneous generation of life aspect, at least from the earth's perspective ( if we got seeded with life from a different planet that's a different story). The notion that minute concentrations of a few amino acids in salt water formed into discrete life forms after millions of years seems pretty implausible to me.

We're not talking about millions, we're talking billions. Prokaryotes on Earth date to about 3.5 billion years ago. I mean, primates only developed 65 million years ago and hominids just over 10 million years ago. Given what we know about evolution (and it's relative rate in terms of growth), is it that absurd to imagine complex organisms developing over the course of 3 billion years?

[3rd & Inches]

Its easy to tell, they have that electric fucking billboard. They always offer free tours (if you happen to have your W-2 on you).

[3rd & Inches]

You know where your little biracial brother came from?

You know what they say about assumptions...

Deez nutz batch!!

[3rd & Inches]

Evolution?

And I believe in evolution but get stuck on the spontaneous generation of life aspect, at least from the earth's perspective ( if we got seeded with life from a different planet that's a different story). The notion that minute concentrations of a few amino acids in salt water formed into discrete life forms after millions of years seems pretty implausible to me.

If we evolved from chimps, how could Zippy be KG's deputy mall chimp in the 70s?

[Riccardo]

Yeah the prokaryotes are the issue

They came out of a very dilute soup of amino acids?

[Drama Queen]

Your momma worships One-eyed God, Penus.

[slag]

Yes ... and I actually don't have a better explanation for where it all came from ... which of course begs the question ... where did God come from?

[Maniac]

Wrong. Scientology is a twentieth century scam, pure and simple. Hubbard was a mentally ill huckster. Miscavage is a sociopath.

Name one Scientologist martyr. Mormonism is a better example.

[Mt Iggle]

interesting. I hope to do that.

[Mt Iggle]

Mathematics comes into this. Is creation of life - which has little to do with current religions - by chance mathematically possible?
If not, then Slag's question of who created the creator - ???? Or there is no beginning of time? Or is time relative?

[Raptor]

I'm a dullard on these things but has not...

Mathematics comes into this. Is creation of life - which has little to do with current religions - by chance mathematically possible?
If not, then Slag's question of who created the creator - ???? Or there is no beginning of time? Or is time relative?

....time and it's relevance been under question?

I know in some religious/philosophical circles past and future do not exist, there is only the "present".