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    I'm over it

    They looked shitty. I think they can correct some of it. Hopefully wentz can gain some experience without dying. If vaitai can develop it would be incredible.

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    IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I THINK V CAN DEVELOP INTO A VERY GOOD LINEMAN, IN TIME.

    BUT WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW, I WAS A KLOB GUY. AND A HOYING GUY AND A........
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      #3
      Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post
      They looked shitty. I think they can correct some of it. Hopefully wentz can gain some experience without dying. If vaitai can develop it would be incredible.
      That game was a shitstain from the start. With Wentz having his jersey ripped in shreds the first play of the game I knew it was going to be a long game. We will see how PEDs and Schwartz adjust. The defense was very concerning. Desperately need Leodis back on that side of the ball.

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        #4
        Originally posted by DEERSPINE GUY View Post
        IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I THINK V CAN DEVELOP INTO A VERY GOOD LINEMAN, IN TIME.

        BUT WHAT THE HELL DO I KNOW, I WAS A KLOB GUY. AND A HOYING GUY AND A........
        Agreed. The coaching staff had to have seen something they liked.

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          #5
          The same coaching staff that liked mills better than rowe

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            #6
            Originally posted by Greenstealth View Post
            The same coaching staff that liked mills better than rowe
            It's hard to compare the 2. I feel like 70% of guys that go to NE end up being good. There's no doubt there's a different pedigree of coaches and players there.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Ground_Meat View Post
              Agreed. The coaching staff had to have seen something they liked.
              Why do people keep saying stuff like this? Where in his pedigree, playing time or college carreer did he do something to make people think he can be a good starting tackle? This is a mostly honest question, I'm not familiar with his college career.

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                #8
                Originally posted by D Leff View Post
                Why do people keep saying stuff like this? Where in his pedigree, playing time or college carreer did he do something to make people think he can be a good starting tackle? This is a mostly honest question, I'm not familiar with his college career.
                I was referring more to what they've seen in camp/practice...I'm assuming he's done well vs our own D line.

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                  #9
                  This has been my question as well. He was a 5th round pick. What did they see that nobody else did? It seems more likely to me that we are just really thin there. Then again you have a pro in Wiesniewski sitting on the bench. It's confusing.

                  Building for the future is fine, but Wentz is the future. If he gets killed nothing else matters.
                  Last edited by McCarthy12; 10-19-2016, 10:09 AM.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by McCarthy12 View Post
                    This has been my question as well. He was a 5th round pick. What did they see that nobody else did? It seems more likely to me that we are just really thin there. Then again you have a pro in Wiesniewski sitting on the bench. It's confusing.

                    Building for the future is fine, but Wentz is the future. If he gets killed nothing else matters.
                    John Runyan was a 4th round pick. Jason Peters was an undrafted tight-end. Evan Mathis was a 3rd round journeyman-underachiever till he got to the Eagles.

                    Wisniewski went to the Jags and they stink, they need o-line help and the didn't bring him back and he really wasn't that high in demand in the off-season...so is he all that good?

                    Not saying he will be a great o-lineman...but seeing one game and going all, "he can't play" doesn't really make sense.

                    I think the fact that they are willing to put Vaitai back out there sort of indicates that the eagles expectations, while not giving up right now, are definitely looking more towards the future. Our dumbass right tackle, barring another dumbass move, is going to be the starting left tackle at some point. If they can find out that Vaitai can play right tackle right..that eliminates the need to have to search again next year.

                    Then they can maybe spend a pick on something else...corner, linebacker, wideout or something else.
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                      #11
                      I hear you, but those are exceptions. Obviously they saw something, I'm just not sure what that something was. Obviously I hope he succeeds. I just don't want "getting V'd" to be a board phrase 5 years from now for a lineman getting the franchise quarterback killed before his career begins.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by McCarthy12 View Post
                        I hear you, but those are exceptions. Obviously they saw something, I'm just not sure what that something was. Obviously I hope he succeeds. I just don't want "getting V'd" to be a board phrase 5 years from now for a lineman getting the franchise quarterback killed before his career begins.
                        not really though. Marcus Cannon, starting right tackle for the patriots, 5th round pick from TCU.

                        Austin Howard, starting right tackle for the raiders, undrafted and originally signed by the eagles.

                        Starting right tackle for a pretty good falcons offense...undrafted.

                        It's more common than you think.

                        Pederson needs to call a better game, more running plays and heavy tight-end sets. I don't know if V is going to be good or not...by why wait another year to find out if he can play?
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                          #13
                          Vaitai can't be as bad as what he showed in his first game. He's still going to look bad but hopefully the live game speed teaches him and he starts picking things up. They still need to invest in the line. I'd rather they spent their first round pick on a center than another wr. Time to cut ties with kelce

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                            #14
                            yeah but

                            Originally posted by McCarthy12 View Post
                            This has been my question as well. He was a 5th round pick. What did they see that nobody else did? It seems more likely to me that we are just really thin there. Then again you have a pro in Wiesniewski sitting on the bench. It's confusing.

                            Building for the future is fine, but Wentz is the future. If he gets killed nothing else matters.
                            what did the eagles see that the Cleveland Browns didn't see in Wentz (or the rams or a number of other QB hungry teams).

                            Also, Wisniewski isn't a tackle, so while i guess they could shuffle things, I'm not sure this would be a great idea.

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                              #15
                              Because Pederson stated that some of the things

                              that they are doing is because they want to win this year. Starting Big V at right tackle doesn't jibe with that statement.
                              John Erlichman, one of President Richard Nixon's closest aides, has admitted America's "War on Drugs" was a hoax designed to vilify and disrupt "the antiwar left and black people" when it was launched in 1971.

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