He's a liar? ... who cares? ... the ratings were way up

[slag]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/golf/...B5kAVTpC86YKaK

Phil Mushnick was right on the money (talks) this past Sunday:

"In the second quarter of Knicks-Pacers Game 3, Jeff Van Gundy riffed about refs miscalling fouls. He said he’d like the number of fouls allowed per NBA player increase from six to seven.

After all, Van Gundy concluded, “fans pay to see the best players.”

We’ve heard such before. In other words, the soulful axiom, “No one is bigger than the game,” should no longer apply. Why not simply cease calling fouls on the best players?

Yet, if fans pay to see the best, why does cheering from the home crowd rise — er, I mean, “go vertical” — when the stars of visiting teams get into foul trouble?

Based on Van Gundy’s theory, let’s give Peyton Manning five downs, Derek Jeter four strikes, Novak Djokovic three serves and allow Tiger Woods to play outside the rules? ... What’s that? The last one already happened?"

[TerpEagle]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/golf/...B5kAVTpC86YKaK

Phil Mushnick was right on the money (talks) this past Sunday:

"In the second quarter of Knicks-Pacers Game 3, Jeff Van Gundy riffed about refs miscalling fouls. He said he’d like the number of fouls allowed per NBA player increase from six to seven.

After all, Van Gundy concluded, “fans pay to see the best players.”

We’ve heard such before. In other words, the soulful axiom, “No one is bigger than the game,” should no longer apply. Why not simply cease calling fouls on the best players?

Yet, if fans pay to see the best, why does cheering from the home crowd rise — er, I mean, “go vertical” — when the stars of visiting teams get into foul trouble?

Based on Van Gundy’s theory, let’s give Peyton Manning five downs, Derek Jeter four strikes, Novak Djokovic three serves and allow Tiger Woods to play outside the rules? ... What’s that? The last one already happened?"

Can we trust the accuracy of this story?

[CCPete]

Sergio Garcia told the Golf Channel that Tiger Woods purposely moved the 17th hole island green 10 feet farther back while playing in the twosome in front of him. He said he hit a perfect shot but it went into the water because Woods moved the island. He said that Woods is not a very nice person.

On a related note they asked Sergio,'s mother about his performance on Sunday. She said, "That's a shot that I should have taken in the face."

[slag]

Not the point ... but I'd trust just about anyone over Tiger Woods.

[TerpEagle]

Not the point ... but I'd trust just about anyone over Tiger Woods.

Your Tiger hate is near-comical. Perhaps Tiger does get away with more. But perhaps he also gets scrutinized more than any other player in the history of golf. Perhaps even so much that things that might never be mentioned for lesser players become full blow discussions in his case.

Maybe it's just that before Tiger came alone golf was a sport of elite gentlemen who followed a certain code of honor that no one dared to breach.

[slag]

Near-comical?

Enlighten me on how my criticism of that dislikable jerk is near-comical?

What's funny about it?

[CCPete]

It's always a bit funny when someone has a hard on for a super star.

[slag]

Still waiting.

[TerpEagle]

Still waiting.

Has it past my deadline to reply?

Perhaps near-comical was a bit much but it seems that you (and possibly I'm just projecting my opinion of other golf fans I've observed with you included) find a bone to pick with Tiger that isn't present for others. It's even to the point that some fans get annoyed that Tiger elevates casual and non-casual interest in golf.

At lot of the complaints seem nit-picky. Christ, every drop he takes for the rest of the year is going to undergo CSE-level analysis. Maybe he should just tell his fans not to show up at the course or tell them to stay in the clubhouse for the benefit of the rest of the lesser players that not many people care about.

As for his lying. He's questioned constantly. There's no comparison to see if he behaves differently than any other player or says things differently because no one really gives a shit what they have to say.

It all just seems pretty ridiculous. And I don't doubt that he has a sense of entitlement or is an asshole. Most people who excel to the levels that he has exhibit those traits as well. The bitching about it though - it just gets near comical.

[slag]

My post didn't impose a deadline ... it was referring to crickets chirping on another discussion involving Eldrick.

As to the matter at hand ... nobody gets the look-away pass Woods gets on bad behavior ... and it's not because other players don't get as much scrutiny on that kind of behavior ... it's because he's the money man.

And I get that ... probably more than you do.

But I don't care if he is ... I'm not looking away.

[TerpEagle]

My post didn't impose a deadline ... it was referring to crickets chirping on another discussion involving Eldrick.

As to the matter at hand ... nobody gets the look-away pass Woods gets on bad behavior ... and it's not because other players don't get as much scrutiny on that kind of behavior ... it's because he's the money man.

And I get that ... probably more than you do.

But I don't care if he is ... I'm not looking away.

I don't disagree that he he benefits from being the money man. But he's also over-scrutinized because of it and because he close to surpassing the man many consider to be the greatest golfer(s) of all time by numerous metrics.

Many people are looking for things to call him on. And most of these people wouldn't give two shits about another player doing the same things.

But he's a jerk at times and he's a bad husband. I don't deny that. I think his situation (and his success) lends itself more to him needing to be a jerk though. He's the target.

Keep looking and hate on though.

I'm sure I was projecting my feelings towards fans who are a bit more over-zealous than you in making my original statement so for that I apologize. That's a statement free of snark,

[3rd & Inches]

I don't disagree that he he benefits from being the money man. But he's also over-scrutinized because of it and because he close to surpassing the man many consider to be the greatest golfer(s) of all time by numerous metrics.

Many people are looking for things to call him on. And most of these people wouldn't give two shits about another player doing the same things.

But he's a jerk at times and he's a bad husband. I don't deny that. I think his situation (and his success) lends itself more to him needing to be a jerk though. He's the target.

Keep looking and hate on though.

I'm sure I was projecting my feelings towards fans who are a bit more over-zealous than you in making my original statement so for that I apologize. That's a statement free of snark,

Somebody on the golf channel yesterday said that its impossible for him to cheat because every swing he's ever taken over the last 15 years has been documented.

[Riccardo]

OBT hatahs

Look for me in the crowd at merion when he wins the US open. Yeah that's right slag, I said it!

[Drama Queen]

Eldrick is a prick

I don't disagree that he he benefits from being the money man. But he's also over-scrutinized because of it and because he close to surpassing the man many consider to be the greatest golfer(s) of all time by numerous metrics.

Many people are looking for things to call him on. And most of these people wouldn't give two shits about another player doing the same things.

But he's a jerk at times and he's a bad husband. I don't deny that. I think his situation (and his success) lends itself more to him needing to be a jerk though. He's the target.

Keep looking and hate on though.

I'm sure I was projecting my feelings towards fans who are a bit more over-zealous than you in making my original statement so for that I apologize. That's a statement free of snark,

It's well documented.

[Drama Queen]

You don't like his character, you just like his game.