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  • #31
    You know I made two main points and nobody seems to have addressed either one.

    - Alternating series is a less than optimal way to judge quarterbacks. If simulating a real game is the object, thats not an accurate way to do it.

    - Getting a starter named as soon as possible is better because you can maximize his first team reps. If you make a bad pick, you can always change starters later. But you cant get those reps back.
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    • #32
      That doesn't make sense

      Originally posted by Maniac View Post
      You know I made two main points and nobody seems to have addressed either one.

      - Alternating series is a less than optimal way to judge quarterbacks. If simulating a real game is the object, thats not an accurate way to do it.

      - Getting a starter named as soon as possible is better because you can maximize his first team reps. If you make a bad pick, you can always change starters later. But you cant get those reps back.
      If you give one guy all of the reps with the first teamers, if that guy goes down, then there is none of the continuity that you desire so much between the backup and the starters. By giving both of them first team reps, you give both more of an opportunity to develop a chemistry with the players that they may have to lead.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by TerpEagle View Post
        In Maniac's defense, imagine what Seattle would have done if Matt Flynn was tabbed the starter before the pre-season.
        Flynn was at the top of the depth chart and Wilson stole the job playing great second halfs in the first two preseason games.
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        • #34
          Of course it makes sense. Thats how every team in the NFL does it. First teamers practice as a unit. If there's an injury somebody has to step up.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Maniac View Post
            Is there some new rule that if the guy he picks bombs out in the first game, he can't make a switch? Would make sense to me to get your projected starters working together as soon as possible.
            Let me get this straight.

            Step 1) Guess at which one will be best without full examination.
            Step 2) Give the player guessed to the be starter most of the first team reps.
            Step 3) If the anointed starter struggles in week one, switch to the backup.
            Step 4) Hope that the backup plays better than the original guy guessed to be the starter even though he's gotten very limited reps with the first team and may actually be worse (an unknown since he wasn't given a chance during pre-season to compete).

            That's your plan? Other than setting up for another bitch-fest of - Why didn't Kelly know what he had in the QB when he named him!?!?!?!? - I don't see much value in this idea.
            Last edited by TerpEagle; 08-09-2013, 10:31 AM.
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            • #36
              Well, I could make just as compelling an argument that alternating series creates a valuable simulation of coming into a game for an injury.

              It's the first practice game ... relax ... have a cream soda.
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              • #37
                kelly runs 2x the reps in practice as a traditional coach. there's plenty of reps to go around.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                  Of course it makes sense. Thats how every team in the NFL does it. First teamers practice as a unit. If there's an injury somebody has to step up.
                  Those are teams with a clear cut starter at QB. The Eagles are not that team. What don't you get?
                  Last edited by TerpEagle; 08-09-2013, 10:33 AM.
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                  • #39
                    It's obviously time to move on from Chip Kelly.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                      Yes. You'll find me tie with Chip Kelly for NFL coaching victories.
                      Same as Gus Bradley.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by TerpEagle View Post
                        Those are teams with a clear cut starter at QB. The Eagles are not that team. What don't you get?
                        For the umpteenth time, alternating series. Read the first post in the thread. What dont you get?
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                          What dont you get?
                          I get it.

                          "We're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game last it's my last but we're talking about practice man. How silly is that?"

                          Get a life dude.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Maniac View Post
                            For the umpteenth time, alternating series. Read the first post in the thread. What dont you get?
                            Well the topic was about the indecision of the QB.

                            Chip is annoying the hell out of me with this QB indecision crap.
                            You even went on to say he should name a starter.

                            I can't believe he hasnt seen enough to name a front runner. I don't care who he picks. Just make a decision and get down to business.
                            Have you realized that maybe that line of thinking was a bit much and now you just want to focus on the alternating snap part of it?

                            We actually don't know how he'll split up the playing time. But don't pretend that you're just pissed about how they'll split reps. You made it quite clear you don't like the fact that a starter hasn't been chosen.
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                            • #44
                              Chip Kelly is basically trying find out who runs his system the best.

                              There are only 2(Vick,Foles) QBs he is interesting in evaluating with the 1st team. It's just that simple.

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                              • #45
                                What is likely happening here is that, because he's only playing starters at all positions in the first quarter, it's likely they'll each only get a series or two anyway.

                                Alternating series or not is pretty irrelevant in that scenario.

                                BTW - he stated that Vick "starts" the first series against NE and Foles "starts" against Carolina ... it's a qb competition ... not a bizarre concept.
                                Last edited by slag; 08-09-2013, 11:41 AM.
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